Conversation

Notices

1. Embed this notice
   Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2023 23:59:47 JST Alex Gleason
   Fascism and communism are both philosophical ideas, neither of which are correct, nor are they inherently evil, which people throw around to mean "whatever I dislike." If you're going to use commie or fascist as an insult it's required you at least read about it.
   • Embed this notice
     Leyonhjelm (leyonhjelm@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 00:13:21 JST Leyonhjelm

     in reply to
     @alex
     
     That's retarded. Fascism isn't inherently evil but communism definitely is
   • Embed this notice
     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 00:13:21 JST Alex Gleason

     in reply to

     • Leyonhjelm
     @Leyonhjelm Wow look at that very popular opinion. Jk. 99% of people believe the exact opposite and they would spank you for it. So are you going to be EXACTLY LIKE THE PEOPLE YOU HATE, or are you going to THINK FOR YOUSELF?
   • Embed this notice
     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 00:16:49 JST Alex Gleason

     in reply to

     • Leyonhjelm
     @Leyonhjelm I have seen my theories in practice, and been beaten down no matter which way I turn. So I conclude if you believe strongly in something, you will eventually be given a good reason not to.
   • Embed this notice
     Leyonhjelm (leyonhjelm@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 00:16:50 JST Leyonhjelm

     in reply to
     @alex
     
     A man as unpopular as yourself should be more cautious about making appeals to popularity.
   • Embed this notice
     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 00:23:57 JST Alex Gleason

     in reply to

     • Leyonhjelm
     • Bead
     @Bead @Leyonhjelm Okay but the arguments against fascism are incredibly painfully obvious, eg "how about those 6 million jews tho"
     
     And the response to it is either "that wasn't real fascism" or the very equivalent "that didn't actually happen", or even "so?"
     
     And all of those things are exactly what people say who defend communism.
     
     You have to be able to look into the mirror. You got to this place because of frustrations with the way the world are. Those frustrations are valid. But that doesn't mean fascism is correct, and same with communism.
   • Embed this notice
     Bead (bead@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 00:23:58 JST Bead

     in reply to

     • Leyonhjelm
     The majority of people see nothing wrong with trooning out kids or let in men in drag compete in women's sports. That isn't a good arguement.
   • Embed this notice
     Bead (bead@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 00:29:49 JST Bead

     in reply to

     • Leyonhjelm
     First of all I have no idea what this discussion is about, I was just pointing out that the vast majority of human beings are retards, so making an appeal to the masses is dumb as fuck. Secondly what does Fascism have to do with 6 million dead jews? That was purportedly National Socialism, not Fascism. Mussolini was too much of a fuck up to even try to pull off something like that.
   • Embed this notice
     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 00:29:49 JST Alex Gleason

     in reply to

     • Leyonhjelm
     • Bead
     @Bead @Leyonhjelm "That wasn't real fascism"
     "That wasn't real communism"
     
     Horsehoe theory confirmed.
   • Embed this notice
     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 00:33:40 JST Alex Gleason

     in reply to

     • Matty
     • Leyonhjelm
     • Bead
     @matty @Leyonhjelm @Bead Right, and communism under Stalin, Mao, Castro, and the anarcho-communism in Catalonia were all very different.
   • Embed this notice
     Matty (matty@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 00:33:41 JST Matty

     in reply to

     • Leyonhjelm
     • Bead
     He was making the point that the Holohoax "happened" under National Socialism, not Fascism. Those are not the same thing. They may be somewhat similar in nature, but not identical.
   • Embed this notice
     Not particularly hype for current thing??‍❤️‍?? (ytfoidlover1488@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 00:55:09 JST Not particularly hype for current thing??‍❤️‍??

     in reply to

     • kroner
     • HoolaHoolaNope
     @HoolaHoolaNope @kroner @alex STOP PLATE TECTONICS
     Alex Gleason likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     kroner (kroner@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 00:55:10 JST kroner

     in reply to
     This man doesn't eat meat btw
   • Embed this notice
     HoolaHoolaNope (hoolahoolanope@spinster.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 00:55:10 JST HoolaHoolaNope

     in reply to

     • kroner
     @kroner @alex
   • Embed this notice
     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 00:55:21 JST Alex Gleason

     in reply to

     • kroner
     • Not particularly hype for current thing??‍❤️‍??
     • HoolaHoolaNope
     @YTFoidLover1488 @HoolaHoolaNope @kroner Thank you. This is the political input we needed.
   • Embed this notice
     idea_enjoyer (idea_enjoyer@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 00:57:34 JST idea_enjoyer

     in reply to
     @alex Fascism and communism are historical ideas. We can literally read about their results.
     
     The final story isn't written yet on liberalism but we can see it playing out in front of us.
     
     Historically, not philosophically, the answer is clear that fascists at least care for their own people, their own nation.
     Alex Gleason likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     idea_enjoyer (idea_enjoyer@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 01:00:47 JST idea_enjoyer

     in reply to

     • Leyonhjelm
     @alex @Leyonhjelm Therefore nihilism...
     
     But seriously that's why I'm religious. Brains aren't the sum total of life, spirit provides opportunity for meaning that logic doesn't
   • Embed this notice
     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 01:00:47 JST Alex Gleason

     in reply to

     • Leyonhjelm
     • idea_enjoyer
     @idea_enjoyer @Leyonhjelm This is my view:
   • Embed this notice
     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 01:04:49 JST Alex Gleason

     in reply to

     • Leyonhjelm
     • idea_enjoyer
     @Leyonhjelm @idea_enjoyer All the other vegans have me blocked on social media.
   • Embed this notice
     Leyonhjelm (leyonhjelm@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 01:04:50 JST Leyonhjelm

     in reply to

     • idea_enjoyer
     @alex
     
     This is why I'm so sure veganism is a heretical religion
     
     @idea_enjoyer
   • Embed this notice
     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 01:08:00 JST Alex Gleason

     in reply to

     • Leyonhjelm
     • idea_enjoyer
     @idea_enjoyer @Leyonhjelm I've written about what I believe: https://web.archive.org/web/20221103082459/https://blog.alexgleason.me/what-i-believe/
   • Embed this notice
     idea_enjoyer (idea_enjoyer@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 01:08:01 JST idea_enjoyer

     in reply to

     • Leyonhjelm
     @alex @Leyonhjelm I find it impossible to fight or continue without religion. If nothing matters there's no point. Maybe I'm weak. But religion provides meaning to my life, and gives me s reason to fight and not "perish like a dog."
   • Embed this notice
     idea_enjoyer (idea_enjoyer@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 01:08:42 JST idea_enjoyer

     in reply to

     • Leyonhjelm
     @alex @Leyonhjelm I will read this, thank you
     Alex Gleason likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 01:10:49 JST Alex Gleason

     in reply to

     • Leyonhjelm
     • idea_enjoyer
     @Leyonhjelm @idea_enjoyer Being closed-minded limits your potential.
   • Embed this notice
     Leyonhjelm (leyonhjelm@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 01:10:55 JST Leyonhjelm

     in reply to

     • idea_enjoyer
     @alex
     
     That's a lot of words to tell us you're a nihilistic faggot
     
     @idea_enjoyer
   • Embed this notice
     NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 01:12:40 JST NEETzsche

     in reply to

     • Leyonhjelm
     • idea_enjoyer
     @alex @Leyonhjelm @idea_enjoyer that one is a classic
     Alex Gleason likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     Bead (bead@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 01:21:33 JST Bead

     in reply to

     • Leyonhjelm
     • idea_enjoyer
     An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded.
     
     Thoughts are viruses, memes. Most people are retards and not mentally strong enough to defend themselves from ideas on their own. That is why things like religion exist, to provide a layer of protection from harmful thoughts for people who lack the internal fortitude to reason through everything for themselves. However in the current world there has been a concerted attack on organized religion in order to subvert and destroy it so that people will be less resistant to hostile ideas.
     
     If you live in a society that has weakened social defenses and is experience a non-stop assault from people utilizing these negative thoughts to weaken and destroy you, then having a closed mind is the best personal defense you can get.
     
     Me, I am a retard and know that if I had an open mind I would probably end up having someone talk me into accepting things which are unacceptable sooner or later. I can't argue for shit, my reasoning is a little wonky. The only way I can protect myself is to close my mind to even listening to things that go against the programming I have in my head right now. To treat anything that challenges my world view with the utmost hostility, and to advocate for the people that push these toxic ideas to be destroyed.
     Alex Gleason likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 01:22:35 JST Alex Gleason

     in reply to

     • Leyonhjelm
     • idea_enjoyer
     • Bead
     @Bead @Leyonhjelm @idea_enjoyer I think there's a line, but I appreciate the beautiful words that you wrote.