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    myrmepropagandist (futurebird@sauropods.win)'s status on Friday, 25-Aug-2023 03:00:55 JST myrmepropagandist myrmepropagandist

    The police shot a 63 year old man while trying to evict him from his home. The elderly man had been taken in by "sovereign citizen" conspiracy theories much to his son's frustration.

    These theories made him more vulnerable to police violence. He also may not have been mentally well.

    The house he was evicted from used to belong to his brother, but a corporation recently bought it for $25,000, then evicted him.

    This story is a nexus of senselessness.

    https://www.wpxi.com/news/local/pittsburgh-active-shooter-what-we-know-about-suspect-william-hardison-sr/YBYESACWBJAZDNWKC5RRHSSGY4/

    In conversation Friday, 25-Aug-2023 03:00:55 JST from sauropods.win permalink
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      Adrian Riskin 🇵🇸🍉 (adrianriskin@kolektiva.social)'s status on Friday, 25-Aug-2023 03:00:49 JST Adrian Riskin 🇵🇸🍉 Adrian Riskin 🇵🇸🍉
      in reply to
      • VoxofGod
      • TopWKone

      @TopWKone @VoxofGod @futurebird you're so close to the truth here. The only reason anyone pays rent is because the police will hurt or kill them if they don't pay and the police will hurt or kill them if they live on unused property. People only pay rent because of the threat of pain or death.

      This is how thugs and robbers and landlords make money, but only the last do it legally, because landlords control the state, which is the instrument of the violence their business requires.

      Why are you defending this business model? How can you even think it's defensible?

      In conversation Friday, 25-Aug-2023 03:00:49 JST permalink
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      TopWKone (topwkone@mstdn.party)'s status on Friday, 25-Aug-2023 03:00:52 JST TopWKone TopWKone
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      • VoxofGod

      @VoxofGod @futurebird so if someone stops paying their rent. Nothing should be done unless they find a new place for them to move to that they are willing to go?
      Why would anyone pay rent then? You could not be kicked out unless someone found a place you were willing to move to that day for what you were paying, nothing.

      In conversation Friday, 25-Aug-2023 03:00:52 JST permalink
      novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️ repeated this.
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      VoxofGod (voxofgod@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 25-Aug-2023 03:00:53 JST VoxofGod VoxofGod
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      • TopWKone

      @TopWKone @futurebird no one should do evictions, unless there is some place for the person being evicted to be rehomed immediately.

      Considering all of the housing being purposefully kept vacant throughout the country in order to keep rents high, this is a totally feasible project

      All evictions should stop until we can guarantee housing for everyone

      In conversation Friday, 25-Aug-2023 03:00:53 JST permalink
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      TopWKone (topwkone@mstdn.party)'s status on Friday, 25-Aug-2023 03:00:54 JST TopWKone TopWKone
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      @futurebird I don’t know who would do evictions if the sherif or police didn’t.
      Private security? Vigilantes?

      In conversation Friday, 25-Aug-2023 03:00:54 JST permalink
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      novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️ (anarchopunk_girl@kolektiva.social)'s status on Friday, 25-Aug-2023 03:05:15 JST novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️ novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️
      in reply to
      • Carolyn
      • Rich Felker
      • TopWKone

      @dalias @futurebird @TopWKone @CStamp fuck droit d'aubaine, all my homies hate the right of increase

      In conversation Friday, 25-Aug-2023 03:05:15 JST permalink
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      Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 25-Aug-2023 03:05:17 JST Rich Felker Rich Felker
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      • Carolyn
      • TopWKone

      @futurebird @TopWKone @CStamp Louder for the folks in the back.

      THERE IS NO INALIENABLE RIGHT TO A RETURN ON INVESTMENTS.

      Make stupid "investments", win stupid prizes.

      In conversation Friday, 25-Aug-2023 03:05:17 JST permalink
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      TopWKone (topwkone@mstdn.party)'s status on Friday, 25-Aug-2023 03:05:19 JST TopWKone TopWKone
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      • Carolyn

      @CStamp @futurebird yes people want a return on the money they invest.
      Unless you are advocating the government own all property, business, and end paying of salaries a return is what motivates people to invest or work.

      In conversation Friday, 25-Aug-2023 03:05:19 JST permalink
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      myrmepropagandist (futurebird@sauropods.win)'s status on Friday, 25-Aug-2023 03:05:19 JST myrmepropagandist myrmepropagandist
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      • Carolyn
      • TopWKone

      @TopWKone @CStamp

      They could get a return by buying an empty home and fixing it up.

      They could get a return by learning more about the existing tenants before buying.

      They could even get possibly a return by getting to know the guy, being transparent about what is needed to keep the property up and setting a rent he could pay.

      They just filled out forms and faxed letters. I would be shocked if they set foot on the premises.

      There is no "inalienable right to a return on investments"

      In conversation Friday, 25-Aug-2023 03:05:19 JST permalink
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      Carolyn (cstamp@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 25-Aug-2023 03:05:21 JST Carolyn Carolyn
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      • TopWKone

      @futurebird @TopWKone They don't care. It's an investment, they want to turn a profit.

      In conversation Friday, 25-Aug-2023 03:05:21 JST permalink
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      TopWKone (topwkone@mstdn.party)'s status on Friday, 25-Aug-2023 03:05:22 JST TopWKone TopWKone
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      @futurebird ok a social worker might be an option. I don’t think this guy would have been receptive to anything but you don’t know.
      Still for an eviction I would want a sheriff there to enforce the process. I couldn’t make a 30 yo person who refused to leave I’m no mma fighter.

      In conversation Friday, 25-Aug-2023 03:05:22 JST permalink
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      myrmepropagandist (futurebird@sauropods.win)'s status on Friday, 25-Aug-2023 03:05:22 JST myrmepropagandist myrmepropagandist
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      • TopWKone

      @TopWKone

      Lastly, I want to humbly submit that anyone who buys a place *with people living in it* who aren't paying rent is taking a huge risk. The price will be lower for this reason.

      A building with tenants in good standing will be more expensive.

      Which is kinda mid-evil but I didn't make this up.

      So this big corporation bought this place for cheap then leans on the government to do the eviction (making the whole community mad even if it goes well)

      It's looter behaviour

      In conversation Friday, 25-Aug-2023 03:05:22 JST permalink

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      myrmepropagandist (futurebird@sauropods.win)'s status on Friday, 25-Aug-2023 03:05:24 JST myrmepropagandist myrmepropagandist
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      • TopWKone

      @TopWKone

      No! A social worker. Determine why the conflict has started. If the person is too poor is it more or less expensive to cover a portion of the rent rather than pay for homeless services or public housing. Is the person is unwell? Can family help?

      It's fascinating how the police will show up to evict this guy over a few thousand dollars, but no such action is possible when independent contractors are stiffed by wealthy developers or clients.

      In conversation Friday, 25-Aug-2023 03:05:24 JST permalink

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