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   Technology Connections (techconnectify@mas.to)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Aug-2023 23:06:33 JST Technology Connections

   • Thomas 🔭🕹️

   @thomasfuchs I'll honestly bet that 90% of the people who claim to be gung-ho about the idea haven't thought about this.

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     Leszek (makdaam@chaos.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Aug-2023 23:10:55 JST Leszek

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs You're making the settling of Mars more and more attractive.

     You're basically saying we could ship all of the Elonites to a place with latency larger than the TCP timeout and make them figure it out?

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     Graham Sutherland / Polynomial (gsuberland@chaos.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Aug-2023 23:27:36 JST Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs @TechConnectify seems like it'd be pretty tricky, tbh. if you wanted to exchange heat with the outside you'd need to work with the thin atmosphere, and it's not like you can just pump water or standard refrigerents when your external environmental temperature range is anything from -150C to +20C.

     you could run the thing indoors like normal, but then you're adding extra artificial thermal load to the life support systems, which seems... not smart.

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     Graham Sutherland / Polynomial (gsuberland@chaos.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Aug-2023 23:31:23 JST Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs @TechConnectify but still far, far harder than just running the computer on earth, which is sorta the problem with their outlook on space travel.

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     Rachel Rawlings (linuxandyarn@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 00:15:14 JST Rachel Rawlings

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs So the way to block ads and nazi memes on Xitter would be to move to Mars?

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     Legit_Spaghetti (legit_spaghetti@mastodo.neoliber.al)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 00:21:09 JST Legit_Spaghetti

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs And in very rare circumstances, the Sun might block Earth/Mars transmissions.

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     Eric Stein � (toba@zeroes.ca)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 00:33:43 JST Eric Stein �

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs I thought it's worse than that.

     > The two planets are farthest apart when they are both at their farthest from the sun, on opposite sides of the star. At this point, they can be 250 million miles (401 million km) apart.

     https://www.space.com/24701-how-long-does-it-take-to-get-to-mars.html#:~:text=The%20two%20planets%20are%20farthest,miles%20(225%20million%20km).

     At 186,000 miles/sec that's 1344 seconds one way

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     Phi Φ (sci_phi@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 01:05:55 JST Phi Φ

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs gotta order FttP : Fiber to the Planet!

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     Knut Morå (kdund@snabelen.no)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 01:42:20 JST Knut Morå

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs
     Any bandwidth issues will be solved by compression-via-chatgpt-prompt! /s

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     Justin Fitzsimmons (smn@l3ib.org)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 02:23:35 JST Justin Fitzsimmons

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs what is it with people and wanting to go to Mars when we haven't set foot on the moon in decades, let alone thought about having people live there, even temporarily. Stop trying to make Mars happen people, it's not going to happen.

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     diegor (diegor@social.gl-como.it)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2023 03:53:50 JST diegor

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @TechConnectify @thomasfuchs maybe... Air is quite thin on mars, so you need a very fast air flow to cool electronics.

     Or maybe a big surface to irradiate the heat?

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     Dan Palmer (dan@social.danpalmer.me)'s status on Thursday, 31-Aug-2023 10:05:56 JST Dan Palmer

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs latency != throughput. I hear the ISS has a ~1s latency, but ~1Gbps throughput. I wouldn't be surprised if Mars has a similarly weird balance. An email attachment image might be barely a blip in the throughput, but I often think about what would need to go into building a usable "offline"/high latency internet. Email might be one of the easier bits, but what does web browsing even look like?

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     Dan Palmer (dan@social.danpalmer.me)'s status on Friday, 01-Sep-2023 23:40:37 JST Dan Palmer

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs I know the current comms infra isn't great, but I'd expect this to improve before humans get there, both for safety and maintaining human connection. Unless I'm mistaken there's nothing about Mars' remoteness that would prevent at least a throughput measured in Mbps most of the time, albeit with that high latency.