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    Ada (ada@mk.wytch.space)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 06:39:26 JST Ada Ada

    yesterday i found out that "i am a fox"@[IPv6::0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0000:0001] is a valid email address.

    In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 06:39:26 JST from mk.wytch.space permalink
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      feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 06:42:02 JST feld feld
      in reply to
      • :debian: 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚊 :opensuse:
      • sam :verified_woem:
      • Natty :butterflyN:
      UTF8 support in domains DOES exist

      http://🦇🍲😋.eth.co
      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 06:42:02 JST permalink
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      :debian: 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚊 :opensuse: (selea@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 06:42:04 JST :debian: 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚊 :opensuse: :debian: 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚊 :opensuse:
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      • sam :verified_woem:
      • Natty :butterflyN:

      @natty

      There is talks about making utf8 support in domains possible.

      Imagine a site called https://🤮.💩

      @starshine @ada

      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 06:42:04 JST permalink
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      Natty :butterflyN: (natty@astolfo.social)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 06:42:05 JST Natty :butterflyN: Natty :butterflyN:
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      • sam :verified_woem:

      @starshine@woem.space @ada@mk.wytch.space I have a pending follow request from https://🌈🌈🌈.st :blobfoxnotlikethisgoogly:

      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 06:42:05 JST permalink
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      sam :verified_woem: (starshine@woem.space)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 06:42:07 JST sam :verified_woem: sam :verified_woem:
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      @ada does that mean i can’t send email from "😳👉👈"@starshines.gay :neofox_cry:

      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 06:42:07 JST permalink
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      Ada (ada@mk.wytch.space)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 06:42:08 JST Ada Ada
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      • sam :verified_woem:

      @starshine@woem.space not sure, the spec is written for compliance with 7-bit ascii and emoji are utf8 multibyte sequences

      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 06:42:08 JST permalink
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      sam :verified_woem: (starshine@woem.space)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 06:42:09 JST sam :verified_woem: sam :verified_woem:
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      @ada aren’t emoji technically valid too, just rejected by almost everything

      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 06:42:09 JST permalink
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      Ada (ada@mk.wytch.space)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 06:42:10 JST Ada Ada
      in reply to

      gl finding anything that lets you send email from this

      but yeah apparently email is @ where host part can be any valid address, and local part can be any ascii string without control characters, and that includes spaces if you use quotes.

      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 06:42:10 JST permalink
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      feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 06:43:42 JST feld feld
      in reply to
      • :debian: 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚊 :opensuse:
      • sam :verified_woem:
      • Natty :butterflyN:
      Some don't need conversion to punycode. I have examples, I had to do thorough testing of this a few months back
      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 06:43:42 JST permalink
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      :debian: 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚊 :opensuse: (selea@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 06:43:43 JST :debian: 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚊 :opensuse: :debian: 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚊 :opensuse:
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      • feld
      • sam :verified_woem:
      • Natty :butterflyN:

      @feld @natty @ada @starshine

      Yes with punycode, nothing new

      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 06:43:43 JST permalink
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      feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 07:41:47 JST feld feld
      in reply to
      • :debian: 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚊 :opensuse:
      • sam :verified_woem:
      • Natty :butterflyN:
      The emojis need to be within a certain codepoint range and if I recall correctly it only worked in Firefox and Brave IIRC. The Safari and others converted to punycode, but these supported the emojis in the location/address bar.
      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 07:41:47 JST permalink
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      :debian: 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚊 :opensuse: (selea@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 07:41:48 JST :debian: 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚊 :opensuse: :debian: 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚊 :opensuse:
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      • feld
      • sam :verified_woem:
      • Natty :butterflyN:

      @feld

      Really, what examples?

      @natty @ada @starshine

      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 07:41:48 JST permalink
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      feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 07:45:08 JST feld feld
      in reply to
      • :debian: 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚊 :opensuse:
      • sam :verified_woem:
      • Natty :butterflyN:
      The user was *never* shown punycode in this scenario, which is the important part.
      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 07:45:08 JST permalink
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      :debian: 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚊 :opensuse: (selea@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 07:45:09 JST :debian: 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚊 :opensuse: :debian: 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚊 :opensuse:
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      • feld
      • sam :verified_woem:
      • Natty :butterflyN:

      @feld

      So punycode then ;)

      @natty @ada @starshine

      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 07:45:09 JST permalink
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      feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 07:47:34 JST feld feld
      in reply to
      • :debian: 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚊 :opensuse:
      • sam :verified_woem:
      • Natty :butterflyN:
      I'll have to ask the frontend devs if they received punycode in javascript for window.location, but I believe they did not.

      Searching for this is annoying as my discussions around this were all in our Discord LOL
      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 07:47:34 JST permalink
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      :debian: 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚊 :opensuse: (selea@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 07:47:36 JST :debian: 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚊 :opensuse: :debian: 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚊 :opensuse:
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      • feld
      • sam :verified_woem:
      • Natty :butterflyN:

      @feld

      Well that is how it used to work, until the famous apple.com example

      @natty @ada @starshine

      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 07:47:36 JST permalink

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      1. Domain not in remote thumbnail source whitelist: www.apple.com
        Apple
        Discover the innovative world of Apple and shop everything iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, Mac, and Apple TV, plus explore accessories, entertainment, and expert device support.
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      feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 07:59:58 JST feld feld
      in reply to
      • :debian: 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚊 :opensuse:
      • sam :verified_woem:
      • Natty :butterflyN:
      Just found a working example in Safari, but this has another issue (should be a black cat)
      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 07:59:58 JST permalink

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      1. https://media.bikeshed.party/pleroma/faf996732eabe0c54fc2bcfc408e3a73c1df04baa24c6b67f0309cd6e82ea2b0.jpeg
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      :debian: 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚊 :opensuse: (selea@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 08:00:00 JST :debian: 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚊 :opensuse: :debian: 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚊 :opensuse:
      in reply to
      • feld
      • sam :verified_woem:
      • Natty :butterflyN:

      @feld

      The domain is always punycoded, it is up to the browsers to display it or not
      It all changed when this got the attention of the big companies, even if other has warned against it for years

      https://www.xudongz.com/blog/2017/idn-phishing/

      Just a week after this article, Chrome chosed to display the punycode instead of the utf-8 encoded characters. Up until that point, every browser did

      @natty @ada @starshine

      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 08:00:00 JST permalink
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      Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 08:01:12 JST Sexy Moon Sexy Moon
      in reply to
      • feld
      • :debian: 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚊 :opensuse:
      • sam :verified_woem:
      • Natty :butterflyN:
      @feld @natty @ada @selea @starshine it is actually broken out that way on purpose according to display guidelines. it is meant to prevent spoofing.
      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 08:01:12 JST permalink
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      feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 08:02:45 JST feld feld
      in reply to
      • Sexy Moon
      • :debian: 𝚜𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚊 :opensuse:
      • sam :verified_woem:
      • Natty :butterflyN:
      Ahh right.

      This is all stupidly complicated 🥹
      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 08:02:45 JST permalink
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      Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 10:21:46 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
      in reply to

      @ada Well email is nearly anything goes in terms of encoding but then implementations have all kinds of limitations, which is why the best is to try sending.

      OpenSMTPd says 501 5.1.3 Recipient address syntax error for that email address btw.

      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 10:21:46 JST permalink
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      LEdoian (ledoian@pleroma.ledoian.cz)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 19:16:05 JST LEdoian LEdoian
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      • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

      @lanodan @ada I checked RFC 5321 and there should only be one or three colons after IPv6 (i.e. either [IPv6:0:0:…] or [IPv6:::1]). The initial colon is separator of the address type and actual address.

      Then my Postfix accepts it says there is no such user (obviously), before it was bad syntax.

      the best is to try sending

      Does anyone remember the VRFY command?

      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 19:16:05 JST permalink
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