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   Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢 (youronlyone@c.im)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 07:48:16 JST Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢

   I learned this week that there are prepaid SIM numbers that are not showing up in their database hence there is no need to SIM reg.

   What is interesting is that, these SIM numbers also doesn't expire. You can use it regularly for SMS and calls, load it, some even have unlimited data (enable a low-tier Internet data and it becomes unlimited).

   Here's the kicker, there are people who are looking for these numbers and will buy it for a very high premium. Though I'm suspecting these are from the mobile operators because they are hunting these numbers so they can disable it.

   Well…

   ROFL.

   Keep it!

   @youronlyone@firefish.social

   #Philippines #SIM #SIMreg #UnliData #UnliInternet

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     Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢 (youronlyone@c.im)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 09:05:00 JST Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢

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     @rom Yep. None of it makes sense.

     But, apparently that is their explanation why there are SIMs that don't expire even without loading it for years.

     I have a prepaid SIM card in a similar situation, although I don't have the perks, like not loading it and it won't expire (maybe I have that, but I don't want to risk it), that they cannot fix. The official reason from their engineer was, they can't find my number in their database, and how the issue I'm experiencing was because my number is in their old system that they can't migrate or search.

     They actually want me to get a new SIM and give them that number so they can deactivate it. I chose to keep it.

     This was years ago, I had no idea it was a serious thing until now. I thought it was just an excuse.

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     Oh 2 ten (rom@social.lol)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 09:05:01 JST Oh 2 ten

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     @youronlyone@c.im @youronlyone@firefish.social how can the SIM be not on the database when it connects to the network for signal?

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     Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢 (youronlyone@c.im)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 09:11:14 JST Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢

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     @rom Not my SIM, I don't want to risk it hehe.

     But someone I know who have old numbers from decades ago, the numbers are still active without loading it for years, and not registered. Though what I really want is the unlidata perk of those old numbers.

     There are SIMs (bought a few years back) which were deactivated already because it failed to meet the SIMreg deadline. Maybe they're doing it slowly?

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     Oh 2 ten (rom@social.lol)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 09:11:15 JST Oh 2 ten

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     @youronlyone@c.im @youronlyone@firefish.social so you have not registered the SIM and it is still working?

     Actually - I *HIGHLY DOUBT* that telcos have deactivated anything. Why would they when it is still making them money, right?

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     Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢 (youronlyone@c.im)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 09:20:54 JST Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢

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     @gowin Exactly.

     Years ago, with my prepaid SIM, that was their explanation why they can't fix the issue with my number. Slowly, ₱1 or ₱0.50 is deducted from my load.

     They claimed I subscribed to their promos, so they asked me to load up and they'll unsub me. Their agent was confused because he saw for himself I was telling the truth that I never subbed to any of their promos.

     Called their engineer, they searched for my number, and the final explanation was that: my number is in their old database that they cannot search. I should change number instead and they'll deactivate my current number since it's old.

     Like. No.

     I had no idea then it was a real explanation and not an excuse.

     @rom @youronlyone@firefish.social

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     거윈 🍉 (gowin@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 09:20:55 JST 거윈 🍉

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     @rom

     Well, if that's true, then the telcos are violating the law BUT they claim these rogue SIMs don't "appear" in their database, so their excuse is they couldn't do anything about it? How absurd!

     @youronlyone@c.im @youronlyone@firefish.social

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     Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢 (youronlyone@c.im)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 09:21:42 JST Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢

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     @rom They need to milk the scammers and spammers more. Hahaha.

     @youronlyone@firefish.social

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     Oh 2 ten (rom@social.lol)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 09:21:44 JST Oh 2 ten

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     @youronlyone@c.im @youronlyone@firefish.social well, slowly? Haha :)

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     Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢 (youronlyone@c.im)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 09:22:05 JST Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢

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     @rom Truth. I still get them regularly.

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     Oh 2 ten (rom@social.lol)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 09:22:08 JST Oh 2 ten

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     @gowin @youronlyone@c.im @youronlyone@firefish.social I know - but the number of SMS scams is still high.

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     Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢 (youronlyone@c.im)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 21:16:43 JST Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢

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     @gowin My colleague shared when he requested to have his SIM card upgraded to 5G, he was told that they can't do it because his number is old, from the 1st/2nd gen era, and can't be transferred to their 5G database. They tried to convince him to give it to them. LOL.

     @rom @youronlyone@firefish.social

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     Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢 (youronlyone@c.im)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 21:29:21 JST Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢

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     @gowin @rom

     Not sure. If the reason is technical, and they truly cannot do anything with 1st and 2nd gen numbers, maybe they can get away with it? Especially considering people doesn't want to return those numbers to them after they explained the situation.

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     거윈 🍉 (gowin@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 21:29:22 JST 거윈 🍉

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     @youronlyone@c.im @rom @youronlyone@firefish.social wouldn't that be a violation of the numbers portability law?

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     Jepoy Bengero (jepoy@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 21:33:29 JST Jepoy Bengero

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     @youronlyone@c.im a friend of mine also had this problem years ago with Smart. The store said they can't upgrade the SIM to LTE since it's too old. We went to 3 different Smart stores, got the same excuse. A year later, I gave him those self upgrade LTE SIM cards. It worked :KEKW:

     @gowin @rom @youronlyone@firefish.social

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     Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢 (youronlyone@c.im)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 21:33:29 JST Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢

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     • Jepoy Bengero

     @jepoy Interesting!

     I wonder what the reason is actually why they have this "old number" reason. Theoretically (logically?), it should be easy to transfer to the new system / database since these are prepaid SIMs. I would understand if these were postpaid, since grandfathered plans probably are not in the new system.

     @gowin @rom @youronlyone@firefish.social

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     Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢 (youronlyone@c.im)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 22:02:19 JST Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢

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     @jepoy Haha, good idea.

     A hassle, but that can work, if being an old number / old database/system is the issue. Hmm…

     @gowin @rom @youronlyone@firefish.social

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     Jepoy Bengero (jepoy@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 22:02:20 JST Jepoy Bengero

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     @youronlyone@c.im Porting the number to a different provider then porting it back might do the trick though. :KEKW:

     @gowin @rom @youronlyone@firefish.social