1. yes the western world is filled with weak men due to feminist programming and life getting too easy. 2. women's hypergamie (https://mastodon.satoshishop.de/@mk/110749758155403915) really went of the rails due to social media (unlimited simp males attention and easier access to high-value-men all over the country)
In fact, this is seen with all of the "where are the good guys" that so many spout all the time. If they didn't want to be with them in a committed relationship, they would care about good ones.
"aren't as many men that provide or protect[..]Single parent households are rising[..]men can avoid responsibility[..]institution of the family is an enemy to those that hate the good."
single parent household..
500 years ago: women could not provide and protect alone..and died. today: feminism tells her to be strong and independent and social welfare system's makes sure she survives.
I would argue there aren't as many men that provide or protect. Single parent households are rising for every demographic and men can avoid responsibility and point to the women all they want but they did it too.
The entire institution of the family is an enemy to those that hate the good.
I didn't marry purity to make sure I was the father, I did it because that is a signal of strength and virtue and I wanted that in a partner and nurturer to my kids.
"reductionist[..]selection bias[..]stats are from dating apps[..]Boys are often invisible because they are sitting around playing video games or watching porn."
hypergamie isn't a new concept.
do you agree that.. ..in history the men with the most money and status had the most women? ..today the most women in the club orbit themen with the most perceived status in the vip section?
That is incredibly reductionist and has a massive selection bias. The stats are from dating apps and are for people fishing for some fun mostly. Boys are often invisible because they are sitting around playing video games or watching porn.
Again, MGTOW perpetuates the feminism lie that marriage is a cold contractual thing and not a relationship full of intimacy and love as long as there is real good involved. Both blame the other with hypergamy or patriarchy or something
"MGTOW[..]marriage[..]Both blame the other with hypergamy or patriarchy or something"
wtf? why are you #gishgalloping a bunch of bullshit into this conversation?
if you want to get married, get married. i'm not telling you what to do. but if you're retarded enough to do it with the state involved, i'm also not sorry for you when she financially rapes you.
I mean there were times with men with multiple women but polygamy is tribal as left in the bronze age. This sort of things like discussions didn't happen.
The club is the problem and accepting the degradation and degeneracy as a given is the problem. And is why both are the same just with a different victim class and oppressor class.
"The Gish gallop[..]is a rhetorical technique in which a person in a debate attempts to overwhelm their opponent by providing an excessive number of arguments with no regard for the accuracy or strength of those arguments. Gish galloping prioritizes the quantity of the galloper's arguments at the expense of their quality."
If you think it is gishgallop, that just means you don't want to think about it. You are the one with multiple posts to answer.
And that is what the feminists say to women.
You see, I and my wife are committed to each other and have been for decades and usually have the most kids in every group I am in. Because we based it on love and dedication. And goodness. Neither of us have been to a club, we weren't sexual prior to marriage. I wasn't addicted to entertainment.
"I and my wife[..]committed to each other[..]have the most kids[..]based it on love and dedication[..]goodness[..]Neither[..]club[..]weren't sexual prior to marriage"
congratulations. you're a minority. the majority of modern women had more than 10 dicks inside them by 25.
True. And boys are porn addicts at 12. This isn't a gendered problem or like the leftist oppression paradigm. It is a general decay in the values that make our society. Good had in general become the minority. But it doesn't have to be that way, be the good you want.
I know what it means. Just throwing accusations doesn't make them true was my point. That's not a straw man btw. Unless you have an absurd argument you didn't make that I misrepresented and fabricated? My point was if anyone was, the one making multiple replies was far more likely. But if you want fallacies, as hominem is arguing the person instead of the point which is where your thread here has gone. Be better.
Not mad, just confused on why MGTOW losers are. Appeals to nature are silly on both sides.
First, you said men in history had multiple women. That was true and they were savage warlords. It was more the men claimed to women. Women didn't really have a choice in the matter.
Second, it isn't fine. The hypersexuality is degrading our society. It ironically makes men effeminate and women masculine which they both suck at.