Is there a big definitive book on what went wrong with Russia trying to become a liberal democracy in the 90s?
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Zach Weinersmith (zachweinersmith@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 20:39:20 JST Zach Weinersmith -
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pettter (pettter@mastodon.acc.umu.se)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 20:39:20 JST pettter @ZachWeinersmith https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shock_Doctrine
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maxlath (maxlath@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 18:40:20 JST maxlath @ZachWeinersmith not a book, but Adam Curtis' documentary "Russia 1985–1999: TraumaZone" does a great job at addressing the question "What It Felt Like to Live Through The Collapse of Communism and Democracy" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_1985%E2%80%931999:_TraumaZone
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Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 18:40:27 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 @ZachWeinersmith okay, got a recommendation of an *actual book on the actual subject* from a person whose opinion on stuff like this I tend to trust a lot:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_OligarchsOn my reading list now too.
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Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 18:40:28 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 @ZachWeinersmith not a book, and not *specifically* about this, so feel free to ignore me here, but Timothy Snyder's "Making of Modern Ukraine" course contains a lot of background and historical and context info useful here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJczLlwp-d8&list=PLh9mgdi4rNewfxO7LhBoz_1Mx1MaO6sw_In conversation permalink Attachments
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Jena TransMILF (jena@eldritch.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 18:40:46 JST Jena TransMILF @ZachWeinersmith The Rachel Maddow book about Russia, oil and Rex Tillerson is very interesting on this topic.
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TheSauce (thesauce@mstdn.ca)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 18:40:48 JST TheSauce @ZachWeinersmith you won't go wrong starting with any book by Mark Galeotti.
"A Short History of Russia" gives you the broad swath perspective, but spend some time with "The Vory: Russia's supermafia."
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Andrei Kucharavy (andrei_chiffa@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 18:40:48 JST Andrei Kucharavy A good starting point for western audience would be Putin’s Russia by Politkovskaya https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putin%27s_Russia, although IMHO Putin is a symptom (and I am not sure how clear she makes it there).
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clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 18:40:54 JST clacke @Homebrewandhacking @ZachWeinersmith There were nonzero people who sincerely tried to make Russia a liberal democracy. If they failed to rally the rest, understanding why is an interesting and important topic. In conversation permalink -
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PJ Coffey (homebrewandhacking@mastodon.ie)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 18:40:55 JST PJ Coffey Your question assumes they tried.
kamilkazani on substack:
1. Is a dickhead
2. Will cost you moneyBut
3. Has made very convincing arguments that they never tried and never would.
Very realpolitik.
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Roman (r_matv@sciences.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 18:41:02 JST Roman @ZachWeinersmith this one fits the description: https://upittpress.org/books/9780822963684/
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clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 18:41:05 JST clacke @desikn @ZachWeinersmith Do you mean the foreign policy direction facilitated a particular political structure? In conversation permalink -
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Desikner (desikn@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 18:41:06 JST Desikner @ZachWeinersmith As I understand it, when all those satellite states became independent in the 90's the USSR lost half of it's population and a bunch of land resulting in a lesser empire. Russia is pissed this happened and wants it all back.
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Jimmy Havok (jhavok@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 18:41:07 JST Jimmy Havok @ZachWeinersmith Aricle from The Nation: Harvard d Boys Do Russia
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/harvard-boys-do-russia/
The creation of the Russian kleptocracy was deliberate and it's no surprise Republicans look to it as their model.
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clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 18:41:09 JST clacke @KewlCat @ZachWeinersmith That leads to the second "why?". In conversation permalink -
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KewlCat (kewlcat@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 18:41:10 JST KewlCat @ZachWeinersmith A book? I thought all you needed was the word "corruption"…
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clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 22:50:20 JST clacke @KewlCat Still not an explanation specific to Russia. In conversation permalink -
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KewlCat (kewlcat@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Aug-2023 22:50:21 JST KewlCat @clacke @ZachWeinersmith That's Volume II: "greed"
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