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Neko McCatface v2023 :verified::makemeneko: (roboneko@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 20:11:58 JST Neko McCatface v2023 :verified::makemeneko:
@newt @lanodan @olmitch

> it seems like no one is interested in Linux as a viable gaming platform, so I'm closing this bug

:gura_pain:

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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 20:11:55 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  It's a viable retro-gaming platform. Get bent.
  
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  Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 20:23:06 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
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  @scarlet @roboneko @olmitch @newt Mere applications in wayland do not change the display configuration, so in a way yes.
  
  btw there's gamescope (as used on the Steam Deck) if you have a game that doesn't scales by itself.
  
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  Scarlet :02_dance: (scarlet@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 20:23:07 JST Scarlet :02_dance:
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  @roboneko @newt @lanodan @olmitch
  Is Wayland any better at handling this? These days if I game below native resolution I just use AMD's FSR to scale it up, so I don't deal with a game changing my resolution anyway. But I am curious if Wayland really is the savior of display servers, or if it's just as stupidly constructed.
  
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  Neko McCatface v2023 :verified::makemeneko: (roboneko@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 20:39:29 JST Neko McCatface v2023 :verified::makemeneko:
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  > Mere applications in wayland do not change the display configuration
  
  what about running full screen without compositing?
  
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  Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 20:39:29 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
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  @roboneko @scarlet @olmitch @newt Oh dear, I sense a DOS-brained gamer™ moment.
  
  - Wayland compositors do compositing on the GPU, so it's not some slow shit like you can experience on X11
  - With that said, fullscreen applications can be accelerated even more via GPU planes to get something that's AFAIK virtually undistinguishable from "no compositor/WM" except stuff like alt-tab and multi-monitor will just work
  
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  Neko McCatface v2023 :verified::makemeneko: (roboneko@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 20:54:58 JST Neko McCatface v2023 :verified::makemeneko:
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  @dushman @lanodan @newt @scarlet @olmitch upthread was discussion that it doesn't let the program switch resolution to begin with, so ... :what2:
  
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  Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 20:54:59 JST Dushman
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  @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @roboneko@bae.st @scarlet@bae.st @olmitch@shitposter.club @newt@stereophonic.space
  Oh and it does not have the issue of not switching back to original res if you exit out of a fullscreen game running a different res like X does
  
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  Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 20:55:01 JST Dushman
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  @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @roboneko@bae.st @scarlet@bae.st @olmitch@shitposter.club @newt@stereophonic.space
  I also have zero issues running windows games with wine
  
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  Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 20:55:01 JST Dushman
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  @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @roboneko@bae.st @scarlet@bae.st @olmitch@shitposter.club @newt@stereophonic.space
  All of the ones that worked before still work :osaka_chair_walk:
  
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  Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 20:55:02 JST Dushman
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  @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @roboneko@bae.st @scarlet@bae.st @olmitch@shitposter.club @newt@stereophonic.space
  I've been using wayland for a while myself and it remedies a lot of the annoying issues that crop up in X
  
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  Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 21:02:03 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
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  @roboneko @scarlet @dushman @olmitch @newt I think controlling the display entirely to the point of breaking stuff like alt-tab is only for things like VR, where you have DRM leasing for non-desktop displays.
  
  And from what I could see SteamVR works like a VR-aware compositor so when a game freezes the image rendered still moves with the headset.
  
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  Neko McCatface v2023 :verified::makemeneko: (roboneko@bae.st)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 21:02:04 JST Neko McCatface v2023 :verified::makemeneko:
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  @lanodan @scarlet @olmitch @newt cc @dushman nah I'm aware that compositors can perform well enough these days. it was a question about what would happen if an application wanted to take full control of the display. I think I answered my own question tho, looks like you'd use DRM directly (???)
  
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