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   jet (jetzkrieg@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 14-Aug-2023 10:55:19 JST jet
   People who cry about loli are such faggots. In the real world I have to be a good boy and think about morality and other such inconvenient things, i'm not forcing that on myself when it comes to anime girls are you kidding me
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     NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Monday, 14-Aug-2023 10:55:17 JST NEETzsche

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     • Christi Junior

     Bro why do you keep dying on this hill? This canonical age loli cope is like me illustrating a tank and telling you it’s an illustration of an airplane. Illustrations of little girls getting raped are gross and no further analysis is required as a justification for banning them from your Internet chat room or fediverse instance or whatever else.

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     Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 14-Aug-2023 10:55:18 JST Christi Junior

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     @jetzkrieg I get why some people cry about Loli, even if it's pretty gay. However, you also have a bunch of faggots unironically crying about fully developed anime girls being lewded because of their canonical age, and like holy shit nigger, you are actually retarded.
     
     If you're the kind of faggot trying to apply Age of Consent to Drawings, then you have to also accept that the canonically 700 year old Dragon Loli is fair game.
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     NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 02:20:48 JST NEETzsche

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     • Christi Junior
     • CenturianFrend

     I’m not under the impression that all loliposters are by definition pedophiles, but the ones who jerk off to that trash absolutely are. An example of non-pedo loliposters would probably be DRC users, who bombarded me with them a while ago to get a rise out of me. Believe it or not, I do get the psychology of sending people this sort of thing just to get a rise out of them.

     But I also think sexually explicit lolicon and gore are two cases where people are right to be disturbed by the content they’re seeing and want their sysadmins / instance admins / etc to be proactive about suppressing it. Sending me raped lolis isn’t really “content,” it’s just trollan trying to trigger lames.

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     Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 02:20:49 JST Christi Junior

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     • CenturianFrend
     @CenturianFrend @NEETzsche @jetzkrieg That's another thing, there's a huge difference between people on Fedi who dislike Loli, but tolerate it, and those who obsess about it and try to bully neutral admins into hardening their stances against it. The latter group (bot being the obvious example) include some of the worst people on rightwing Fedi. NEET is pretty much the only such user that I actually find worthwhile.
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     CenturianFrend (centurianfrend@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 02:20:50 JST CenturianFrend

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     • NEETzsche
     • Christi Junior
     @ChristiJunior @NEETzsche @jetzkrieg I don't like loli, and i'm just assuming my mutuals that are into it will get over it eventually, but at the end of the day they hate the same people i do so you know, whatever.
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     Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 02:20:51 JST Christi Junior

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     • NEETzsche
     @NEETzsche @jetzkrieg I believe I've already explained my stance multiple times, but sure, let's give it another go:
     
     For starters, I've already seen how far-right instances who make a big stink about banning Loli turn out: Gab
     
     Gab fucking sucks - but there was a time when Gab's community was pretty decent, and that was back when Loli was still allowed. When Torba got up on his high horse about banning Loli, it was actually remarkable just how many of the best and most interesting users this drove away, most of them not even Lolicons, but free speech enthusiasts, edgelords, lewdposters and the like. Meanwhile, all of Gab's worst posters (the braindead Boomer Good Morning posters who between them couldn't make an interesting post if given 10 000 years to do so, the unreformed Pieville-tier Nazis etc) loved the ban. It ruined Gab's community and set the stage for all subsequent negative changes.
     
     As for Lolicon itself - it's just fucking drawings. I advocate for the Wild West Internet, not the "How old is that anime girl?!" Reddit Internet. Is there overlap between Lolicons and actual Pedos? Sure. Is there a perfect or near-perfect overlap? I'm not remotely convinced that there is, I've come across way too many Lolicons who I'd consider reliably anti-pedo for that to be the case. Hell, from what I recall varishangout will actively purge users who are suspected of being into real kids, or who just come across as "Sus".
     
     So when I'm dealing with Lolicons who I feel convinced are on the level, I'm not gonna hold their taste in Drawings against them. Especially since said drawings otherwise act as a great Filter against undesirables and is one of the frontline online free speech battles. I'm *happy* that the kind of people who obsess about the canonical ages of fully developed anime girls, or who claim that liking petite women is pedo, or who insist 30 year old man + 18 year old woman is pedo currently get stuck in the trench warfare of the Loli Question on Fedi, instead of being able to advance their various retarded crusade - none of which have anything to do with protecting actual children.
     
     And for the record, I'd take the rightwing Fedi cunny communities over the obsessively anti-Loli communities in a heartbeat. This is not a hard call or a dilemma for me, not even close.
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     NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 06:19:58 JST NEETzsche

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     • Christi Junior
     • Caek Islove ? ❤️
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     • teknomunk

     I maintain that interest-based/community-based instances are ideal. Let them self-govern. It’s literally how federation is supposed to work. Lots of little rinky dink microstates with relatively free movement between, and the recourse is not recognizing neighbors and exile, but that’s, like, it.

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     Caek Islove ? ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 06:20:01 JST Caek Islove ? ❤️

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     @jetzkrieg @ChristiJunior @NEETzsche @CenturianFrend Random defederations was one thing that really frustrated me back when I was on Poast.
     
     Obviously, the threat model graf is dealing with is different than most instances so it's understandable, though.
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     teknomunk (teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 06:20:01 JST teknomunk

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     • Christi Junior
     • Caek Islove ? ❤️
     • CenturianFrend
     @caekislove @ChristiJunior @NEETzsche @CenturianFrend @jetzkrieg It's another good reason to spread out on morr servers: it makes defederation less effective.
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     jet (jetzkrieg@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Aug-2023 06:20:02 JST jet

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     • Christi Junior
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     @ChristiJunior @CenturianFrend @NEETzsche I wish poast wasnt defederated because im curious to see what someone called NEETzsche has to say about it