@nameredacted@mkultra I'm not plan trusting Elon, but everybody has to start somewhere. There's a TON of conservatives and even some of the rare principles left who will look into this because of his tweets. Spread it around to people you know who might be receptive to this. That's what I did.
@BowsacNoodle@nameredacted I would seriously like someone to articulate a position that musk bringing attention to this issue is bad in a coherent and consistent manner.
@mkultra@nameredacted I will strawman instead. >if you don't financially destroy yourself, your media platform, your car company, and your government contracts immediately by backing people in a way that satisfies overly online niche political opinions, you're useless.
@BowsacNoodle@mkultra@nameredacted the richest goy in the world using any of his wealth to save his countrymen from genocide is "online niche politics," somehow musk finds a way to make this true
@themoodyjooz@mkultra@nameredacted Here's what I want HIM to do. >Continually amplify the problem. Post about it regularly until nominally progressive groups are forced to address it (hear me out), and, when they don't, make it a hypocrisy outcry to engage the conservatives.
From there, others can leverage the fact that White Christians are the single most charitable people on earth to raise funds, supplies, volunteer corps, etc. to assist The Boer. Musk will have his hands tied, but he may be able to help in logistics or supplies in some way. If this becomes a mislabeled boondoggle, which knowing our government and jews is very likely, there comes a risk of associating funding to The Boer with BSA violations and the rabbit hole that heads to. I'd love for him to hire a mercenary group to defend the people there, but I don't expect anyone to actually do that without risk of losing their own head. SA "has to" exist as a democratic rainbow nation so jews can pretend such a mob rule is viable.
@mkultra@nameredacted@themoodyjooz Correct, which is why *I personally think this is good*. I've not counter signaled at all, just like I try not to counter aitnal any group or person who does things which are even remotely "based". The trick is to never let people get sucked into cult of personality just because someone throws them a couple of bones.
@mkultra@nameredacted@themoodyjooz Dragon tier capitalists don't get that way by being generous and constantly looking out for others. My default view of all gazillionaires is neutral-negative when they try to interject their opinions into sociopolitical issues. Sometimes I'm proven wrong, but this same heuristic is becoming more accurate as I get older and the world becomes gayer.
@mkultra@BowsacNoodle@nameredacted give 10 billion zogbucks to orania and jump off the roof of X hq this White nigger could pay for the legal defense fund of every White person in the world and have enough left over to give ever South Afreekan a tesla battery wall to run their anti-nigger electric fences when the grid goes out every 20 minutes, fuck his tweets and amplifying, gay bullshit
@themoodyjooz@mkultra@nameredacted I actually like the electric fence idea. He should see about sending them some fancy stuff for that. What was the other country that had one? Camaroon?
@themoodyjooz@mkultra@Griffith@nameredacted They want just the right amount of lack of agency with just enough intelligence to know to shut their mouths. 90 IQ defaults so the +2 SD goofballs can wrangle them with platitudes.
@doctorsex@Shadowman311@nameredacted@themoodyjooz@mkultra >"Never settle, and when they say and give you what you want, demand more." This is true, because we know this works from watching our enemies do it. But who we direct it at should be politicians NOT sympathetic third parties with a platform willing to amplify the issue.
@doctorsex@themoodyjooz@BowsacNoodle@nameredacted@mkultra "why doesn't he destroy his life and the inheritance of his 10+ children to appease me? The cringe aah neckbeard who gives myself headaches from getting mad at political podcasts?"
@BowsacNoodle@doctorsex@Shadowman311@nameredacted@mkultra I remember this being the mood before blumpf won, and then it just evaporated and turned into never ending "at least he's trying/bringing attention to/etc" it's not like I'm on x calling musk a nigger, I just don't believe he cares, people should always keep demanding more however they see fit
@themoodyjooz@Shadowman311@doctorsex@mkultra@nameredacted You're right on things being different before orangjmin. It's possible to care without throwing 100% of your energy into caring. I'm trying to give you some perspective on this is all.
@doctorsex@BowsacNoodle@Shadowman311@mkultra@nameredacted@mkultra cool so then you understand that it's a fake and gay act just as much as him fighting the adl for free speech is, richest man in the world on a global platform legitimizing White genocide narratives doesnt threaten his life at all, just ackshually doing something
Frankly I'm surprised there hasn't been more pushback on it. But yeah, god forbid people look for something positive instead of ceaselessly bitching about how whatever isn't perfect enough.
You want to bitch and whinge about "bad faith" while you straight up just make up shit. Where did I say *everything* on fedi is performative? Where did I demand anybody "post like a politician"? You're acting like this is all just a form of pressure release, hence the assumption of it being performative.
>how, under an international anti-White regime, would someone expending resources to explicitly help Whites face more than just potentially negative backlash for doing so? Do you live under a rock or something? Nobody bothered with your retarded question because most people with even a slightly beyond surface level understanding of things would get it.
Where am I asking you to post like a politician? I'm just telling you it comes across as nothing more than signalling when it comes from a powerless person to an audience of other powerless people
What is the point of making those demands where 1) noone in power would ever see them 2) even if they saw them why would they care? If the point of that strategy is to annoy people in power to implementing your ideas, why bother only voicing those critiques to other powerless people? It's a performative exercise.
Like, I think if people are still so sufficiently motivated to avoid being labeled as "White supreeemists" I don't see how pointing them to "more legitimate" people/groups fixes that. I also think that if the position White people are in is truly so dire as people make it out to be (and I'm not disagreeing with that, we're in a pretty rough spot) I don't think we're in a position where we can turn things down that aren't good enough. Call me crazy or gullible or naive or something, but I think the first priority ought to be furthering anything that gets people discussing the situation the Boers are in to get the ball rolling on helping them, and I think getting pissy because the "wrong people" are doing it is counterproductive.
@doctorsex@BowsacNoodle@Humber@Shadowman311@nameredacted@themoodyjooz@mkultra It's far more likely he's trying to co-opt the White South Africa issue early on to prevent other genuine pro-White groups from using it against his Zionist friends. Based on the current state of South Africa, it's going to blow up in ZOG's face big time and their whole narrative about "White Aparteid bad" isn't going to last much longer so why not get Reddit man to steal all of the good pro-White talking points and then subvert them so that nobody legitimate can use them.
It's possible, and maybe I lack the terminal pessimsm to think through how it would actually play out, but I don't know how an explicitly racial issue, particularly this one, gets turned into something else that would actually stick.
@Humber@Shadowman311@doctorsex@themoodyjooz@BowsacNoodle@nameredacted@mkultra Imagine people still plan trusting with Elon Musk, the same guy who co-invented PayPal. The same guy who has banned half of the guys in this very thread from twitter and upheld pre-existing bans for the other half. The same guy who has counter signalled pretty much every pro-White group as being part of a "deep state conspiracy" and spent a sizeable portion of his time trying to court braindead, weed-addled, Joe Rogan fanboying redditers to be his primary audience.
He's not our friend. He's not on our side. He's not some secret /ourguy/ who really gives a shit about White people. His family has had no problem screwing over White South Africans in the past. I see no reason to believe he has a problem with it beyond a handful of tweets from the same disreputable liar who has a history of using dishonest tweets to manipulate stock markets and crypto exchanges for profit.
All if that's true, and I don't disagree that he's a complete shitbag, but I have a hard time believing it would not have as much of a spotlight on it right now if he hadn't said anything about it. Shit people can do good things every once in a while, even if only incedentally.
@Shadowman311@doctorsex@themoodyjooz@BowsacNoodle@nameredacted@mkultra True, he has technically gone out of his way to do "something" to acknowledge the plight of Whites in South Africa, but at the same time oh boy could he do considerably more and still not ruin his life (anymore than he already has anyway).
Legal defense funds for people who lose their jobs because of "woke" politics. Could be for all sorts, leftists and conservatives and not just "Nazis"
He could fund independent films or books without globohomo brainwashing in them.
He could create a sort of mentorship program that helps collect the knowledge of boomers and to pair them up with young guys to teach them. Again, could be for all races, but of course White guys (and Asians) will be the ones most interested.
I could go on, but there are so many very MILQUETOAST organizations he could create that would indirectly or directly aid White people without explicitly being a "pro-White neo-Nazi kill all kikes race war now" sort of thing.
I'm kinda the same. I think he is overrated for sure but as far as his politics or whatever goes, I'm neutral on him.. which is about what he is politically.