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   Daniel Supernault (dansup@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 20:38:43 JST Daniel Supernault

   sup. is an open source encrypted fediverse instant messenger, similar to whatsapp, made by pixelfed.

   The beta will be launching later this month, and btw most fediverse accounts will work, not just Pixelfed 😉

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     Daniel Supernault (dansup@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 21:11:10 JST Daniel Supernault

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     • Talya (she/her)

     @Yuvalne yes

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     Talya (she/her) (yuvalne@433.world)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 21:11:17 JST Talya (she/her)

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     @dansup will it use the Signal protocol?

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     Daniel Supernault (dansup@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 21:11:45 JST Daniel Supernault

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     • wolf

     @wolf because we have our own IM and I already wanted to abstract it to its own app for various reasons. Why are you asking?

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     wolf (wolf@fedi.solibre.de)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 21:11:52 JST wolf

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     @dansup really? "instant messenger, made by pixelfed? Why?
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     Daniel Supernault (dansup@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 21:23:38 JST Daniel Supernault

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     • Nuuskis

     @Nuuskis @wolf yes

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     Nuuskis (nuuskis@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 21:23:39 JST Nuuskis

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     • wolf

     @dansup @wolf Do you have plans to integrate this protocol into fediverse platforms?

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     Daniel Supernault (dansup@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 21:32:02 JST Daniel Supernault

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     The mobile app is written in React Native, and the backend in async PHP (surprisingly high perf).

     Both client and server code will be open sourced when we release the beta, and we'll target F-Droid support and TestFlight!

     I will maintain the primary sup. server, but you will be able to run your own, and connect from the app easily!

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     Ryan Lee Sipes ⚡🦅 (ryanleesipes@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 21:36:50 JST Ryan Lee Sipes ⚡🦅

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     @dansup hook me up with the opportunity to test. Maybe Thunderbird should support Sup.

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     Erotic Mythology (hire me) 🌹 (aimeemaroux@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 21:46:19 JST Erotic Mythology (hire me) 🌹

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     @dansup Sounds exciting!

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     (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧ (tweece@techhub.social)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 21:53:12 JST (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧

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     @dansup I love your ideas and concepts but I have to admit I’m very sad to hear that the iOS version will be written in react native and not swift ui. I really wanted to like pixelfed, but the app feels very out of place on iOS and janky not because it’s not a well made app (it is) but it feels very “androidy” on iOS which will not bode well for adoption, and lead me to delete it and go back to browsing pixelfed via Mona app instead.

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     Daniel Supernault (dansup@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 21:53:12 JST Daniel Supernault

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     @tweece The latest build is much smoother (but sadly isn't out yet), but you do you!

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     Daniel Supernault (dansup@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 21:55:43 JST Daniel Supernault

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     • Albert180

     @jr @Albert180 signal

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     j.r / Julian (jr@social.anoxinon.de)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 21:55:45 JST j.r / Julian

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     • Albert180

     @Albert180 @dansup even Matrix reinvented the wheel, while XMPP existed 😉

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     Albert180 (albert180@freiburg.social)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 21:55:46 JST Albert180

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     @dansup Why reinventing the wheel when #Matrix exists?
     Or will it be compliant with the Matrix-Protocol?

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     steakfrite (steakfrite@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 22:03:16 JST steakfrite

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     @dansup Glad to see the pixelfed team is working hard on improving the fediverse by delivering on long awaited features !

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     Ralf (mrrulf@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 23:00:41 JST Ralf

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     @dansup The idea is great, but why a new project? With MLS becoming a thing, supposed to support federation and being better in every way than the signal protocol, while the matrix protocol is an option as well. I've never heard that activityPub is famous for encryption and all the fediverse apps I know support direct (instand?) messaging, but never end to end encrypted.

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     Nick Steen (nwsteen@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 23:27:36 JST Nick Steen

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     @dansup oh this seems pretty cool

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     Joseph (bongomaster@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 23:54:03 JST Joseph

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     @dansup is this p2p, quantum cracking safe, reproducible, and self hostable

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     Elegast (elegast123@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 01:13:23 JST Elegast

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     @dansup great name, but don't think I'll be in need of something like this. Just recently started using Beeper and really enjoying it. Maybe there will be a bridge in the future.

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     Thor (thorms11@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 01:40:35 JST Thor

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     @dansup @pixelfed this sounds great!

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     Kalcifer (kalcifer@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 02:09:37 JST Kalcifer

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     @dansup is it a Matrix client, or is it something completely separate? If it is the latter, why was it decided to not integrate with existing ecosystems?

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     pocket_ (pocket_@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 02:49:45 JST pocket_

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     @dansup why not a simple matrix integration?

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     YoYunix (yoyunix@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 03:16:49 JST YoYunix

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     @dansup so it’s matrix, but using a different protocol?

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     missrigatoni (missrigatoni@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 03:37:38 JST missrigatoni

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     @dansup I had no luck with Signal, I guess because Play Store is deactivated on my phone, as I’m trying to keep it sanitized before I can install Lineage OS, so I'm reeeeeally excited to this beta release. Thank you!

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     silverpill (silverpill@mitra.social)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 04:27:56 JST silverpill

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     • Talya (she/her)

     @dansup @Yuvalne

     Please consider MLS, end-to-end encryption protocol standardized by IETF: https://blog.phnx.im/rfc-9420-mls/

     Matrix and some other messengers are going to adopt it, so there's a possibility that we can interoperate with them in the future.

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     Felipe :wyd: (felipe_b@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 04:53:24 JST Felipe :wyd:

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     @ola What do you think? Could coyim implement activityPub?

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     Scotty Trees (scottytrees@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 06:05:04 JST Scotty Trees

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     @dansup the fediverse needs encrypted message, this will definitely help the ecosystem overall.

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     gcvsa ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 (gcvsa@mstdn.plus)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 07:49:00 JST gcvsa ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭

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     @dansup It would be super helpful if Pixelfed Implemented the ability to edit posts, before losing focus on entirely new projects.

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     Daniel Supernault (dansup@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 07:49:00 JST Daniel Supernault

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     • gcvsa ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭

     @gcvsa What are you talking about, we shipped that feature two months ago!

     Maybe read the changelog before complaining?

     https://github.com/pixelfed/pixelfed/blob/dev/CHANGELOG.md#added-1

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     Jay Baker (they/he) (mediaactivist@kolektiva.social)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 08:37:48 JST Jay Baker (they/he)

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     @dansup Oh wow. The name alone is absolutely brilliant, for so many reasons. And a fabulous concept in general. Thank you! Keep up the fantastic work!

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     eris (eris@akko.disqordia.space)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 09:28:55 JST eris

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     @dansup Sounds really cool!
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     Phoenix 🔥 🐣🔥 (jxu19@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 13:39:55 JST Phoenix 🔥 🐣🔥

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     @dansup Thanks Dan its good to have an alternative to whatsapp

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     enviousmaroon (enviousmaroon@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 15:09:50 JST enviousmaroon

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     @dansup @remindme 1 year dm

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     eris (eris@akko.disqordia.space)'s status on Monday, 07-Aug-2023 01:18:04 JST eris

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     • Dushman
     @dushman @dansup seems like it'll be Signal but with your fedi account as the identifier instead of your phone number
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     Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Monday, 07-Aug-2023 01:18:05 JST Dushman

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     • eris

     @eris@akko.disqordia.space @dansup@mastodon.social
     I wonder how will this will work. Doing this with activitypub would probably be a bit jank.

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     Daniel Supernault (dansup@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 07-Aug-2023 03:59:36 JST Daniel Supernault

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     • itamar_b

     @itamar_b yes

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     itamar_b@leftodon.social's status on Monday, 07-Aug-2023 03:59:38 JST itamar_b

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     @dansup hi. how well it will support attached files? I'm pretty frustrated with Signal in this regard, that media's original metadata in not preserved

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     mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 07-Aug-2023 04:40:04 JST mcc

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     @dansup Neat. I'd be curious what the function of the "server" is, and what its relationship to the "account" (if accounts on existing instances can be used) is.

     Is this encrypted chat transported over the existing ActivityPub network, or a new network that does an Oauth thing to use ActivityPub accounts as usernames?

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     Daniel Supernault (dansup@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 07-Aug-2023 05:08:13 JST Daniel Supernault

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     • mcc

     @mcc Great question, I’m still working out the details and hope to have this laid out in documentation soon!

     I’m thinking the former with ability to upgrade to encrypted mode out of band or send plaintext “sent you an encrypted message” dm.

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     Dag Ågren ↙︎↙︎↙︎ (waha_06x36@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 07-Aug-2023 05:34:27 JST Dag Ågren ↙︎↙︎↙︎

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     @dansup @tweece Unfortunately, as long as you use React Native, this is the reaction you can expect from the people who strongly appreciate platform aesthetics and functionality. There really isn't a cross-platform UI toolkit that will produce apps that feel properly native, and most likely there will never be one.

     The only way to make an app that feels good on each platform is to do it in native code on both platforms.

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     Daniel Supernault (dansup@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 07-Aug-2023 06:33:30 JST Daniel Supernault

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     • eri :vlpn_smol::therian:

     @eri Yes, https://signal.org/docs/specifications/doubleratchet/

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     eri :vlpn_smol::therian: (eri@moth.zone)'s status on Monday, 07-Aug-2023 06:33:58 JST eri :vlpn_smol::therian:

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     @dansup how's the encryption handled? signal protocol?
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     Post Curator (kukpi7@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2024 17:22:33 JST Post Curator

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     @dansup Is there an apk to download

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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 04:06:09 JST feld

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     • Daniel Ziegener
     @dzi months are really long in Canada, be patient
     
     (reminder that Loops was announced in 2019, so we'll have this around 2030)
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     Daniel Ziegener (dzi@social.heise.de)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 04:06:10 JST Daniel Ziegener

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     @dansup When will sup be available?