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Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 19:03:58 JST Dushman
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  翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 19:03:52 JST 翠星石
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  @mischievoustomato The last decent thinkpads were the core 2 duo line, as those ones can boot without proprietary software.
  
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  Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@marsey.moe)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 19:03:53 JST Johnny Peligro
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  @meso @poppyart @dushman @raccoon @methyltheobromine so thinkpads as a whole are worthless? zamn. I'll ask on the thinkpad subreddit because i know you're special
  
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  meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 19:03:54 JST meso
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  @mischievoustomato @poppyart @dushman @raccoon @methyltheobromine an ideapad is not a thinkpad
  
  and yes, modern thinkpads are not worth it. old ones are
  
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  Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@marsey.moe)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 19:03:55 JST Johnny Peligro
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  @poppyart @raccoon @dushman @methyltheobromine are thinkpads, even modern ones, worth it? i have an ideapad and the build quality seems horrible. 3rd time at a repairmans and I'll have to babysit it...
  
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  Poppy's Art Space (poppyart@berserker.town)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 19:03:56 JST Poppy's Art Space
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  @raccoon @dushman @methyltheobromine I should get a Thinkpad, specifically the Yoga models with a stylus. All other tablets seem kinda iffy with poor repairability and mobile operating systems, and the Thinkpad has fairly green scores on iFixit and a PC OS. Plus, Lenovo literally sells them with Ubuntu on it, so Linux support seems guaranteed (Unlike my HP laptop unfortunately).
  Maybe I'll also try the older Thinkpads as well, particularly the ones with the keyboard people like so much. It's kinda funny that I like rugged designs in general, since even with them being practical first, they still evoke that emotion of coolness. Older Thinkpads also seem usable in the modern day, since a laptop I had that was slower than a Core 2 Duo was running Ubuntu quite well.
  
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  Trash Panda (raccoon@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 19:03:57 JST Trash Panda
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  I miss my thinkpad :(
  
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  MondoBizarrro (mondobizarrro@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 01:36:41 JST MondoBizarrro
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  @dushman @meso @raccoon @mischievoustomato @methyltheobromine @EricZhang456 @poppyart wait theres a vcr drive wtf?
  
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  Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 01:36:42 JST Dushman
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  @EricZhang456@pl.starnix.network @meso@the.asbestos.cafe @methyltheobromine@netzsphaere.xyz @mischievoustomato@marsey.moe @poppyart@berserker.town @raccoon@den.raccoon.quest
  need
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  Eric Zhang (ericzhang456@pl.starnix.network)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 01:36:43 JST Eric Zhang
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  @meso @dushman @methyltheobromine @mischievoustomato @poppyart @raccoon I always think that this Framework thing is kind of a gimmick since there's no upgrade I can't do with my HP laptop besides motherboard. If I am replacing the motherboard, I would probably be getting a new laptop anyway.
  
  Also apparently the Framework people don't know that laptop socketed CPUs existed lmao
  https://community.frame.work/t/socketable-cpus/14902/4
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    Socketable CPUs
    
    Short answer: no Longer answer: The only socketed processors are desktop models and those suck down power like there is no tomorrow. This is an ultra-portable not a desktop replacement so battery life (which hasn’t been fantastic to begin with) would absolutely nosedive. It would also require a complete redesign of the chassis, cooling solution, literally that’s a whole new laptop and would negate the whole point of upgradability thus far. This question has been asked multiple times and you ca...
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  Eric Zhang (ericzhang456@pl.starnix.network)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 01:36:45 JST Eric Zhang
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  @meso @poppyart @dushman @raccoon @mischievoustomato @methyltheobromine yes, if you want to upgrade the cpu you need to replace the motherboard, they sell the motherboard though
  
  if you don't count ram upgradability as upgradability a framework laptop is just as upgradable as my macbook
  
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  Eric Zhang (ericzhang456@pl.starnix.network)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 01:36:46 JST Eric Zhang
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  @dushman @meso @raccoon @mischievoustomato @methyltheobromine @poppyart tbh this thing is just as repairable as my hp, i was originally expecting it to have socketed cpu or something (old thinkpads have socketed cpus)
  
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  meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 01:36:46 JST meso
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  @EricZhang456 @poppyart @dushman @raccoon @mischievoustomato @methyltheobromine lol it doesn't even have a socketed CPU? repairability my ass
  
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  Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 01:36:47 JST Dushman
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  the old gen is way cheaper tho
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  Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 01:36:48 JST Dushman
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  I wouldn't call them overpriced per say. For laptops that is within the standard.
  
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  Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@marsey.moe)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 01:36:49 JST Johnny Peligro
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  @meso @poppyart @dushman @raccoon @methyltheobromine >overpriced
  you're so special!
  i bet they don't do that because they'd rather support each country/continent properly? idk. i do assume they are smarter than a bulgarian though
  
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  meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 01:36:50 JST meso
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  @mischievoustomato @dushman @methyltheobromine @poppyart @raccoon Acting as if they can't mail their $1200 overpriced piece of shit to anywhere in the world like global logistics networks allow them to
  
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  meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 01:36:51 JST meso
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  @mischievoustomato @poppyart @dushman @raccoon @methyltheobromine Total Framework Death
  
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  Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@marsey.moe)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 01:36:52 JST Johnny Peligro
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  @meso @poppyart @dushman @raccoon @methyltheobromine no, America and Europe, but no Latam yet
  
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  meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 01:36:54 JST meso
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  @mischievoustomato @poppyart @dushman @raccoon @methyltheobromine do they only ship to america dawg fucking american startups need to kill themselvs
  
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  Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@marsey.moe)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 01:36:55 JST Johnny Peligro
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  @poppyart @meso @dushman @raccoon @methyltheobromine I can't get a framework where I'm on :(
  
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  Poppy's Art Space (poppyart@berserker.town)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 01:36:56 JST Poppy's Art Space
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  @meso @dushman @raccoon @mischievoustomato @methyltheobromine Huh, maybe I'll consider a Framework and a separate drawing tablet instead. It's just that my current one is too large to carry and it has a fragile screen (I want to draw portably). Of course, it'd also be cool to see a touchscreen Framework laptop (plz let it happen).
  
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  meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 01:36:57 JST meso
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  @mischievoustomato @poppyart @dushman @raccoon @methyltheobromine new ones just aren't as repairable, it is known. buy one of those hipster frameworks if you want repairability. old ones are great for repairability however and parts are cheap
  
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  Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Sunday, 06-Aug-2023 02:44:27 JST Dushman
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  @Mondobizarrro@social.xenofem.me @meso@the.asbestos.cafe @raccoon@den.raccoon.quest @mischievoustomato@marsey.moe @methyltheobromine@netzsphaere.xyz @EricZhang456@pl.starnix.network @poppyart@berserker.town
  Like god intended
  
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