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    Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:55:09 JST Aral Balkan Aral Balkan
    in reply to
    • Cory Doctorow
    • Strypey
    • Hisham
    • Douglas Rushkoff
    • Pixel Doge
    • pglpm

    @strypey @pglpm @pluralistic @Rushkoff @hisham_hm @aperezdc Yeah, it’s nothing good. Was yelling about it last week.

    In conversation Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:55:09 JST from mastodon.ar.al permalink
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      Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:55:13 JST Strypey Strypey
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      • Cory Doctorow
      • Hisham
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      • pglpm

      @pglpm
      > Linux based OS will probably never implement it and will be locked out of all cloudflare hijacked websites in the near future

      Holy christ-on-a-stick. If this is really a likely consequence of Web Environment Integrity being adopted, people with a large following like @pluralistic, @Rushkoff, and @aral need to investigate it and expose it, and we need tech regulators to smack it down and burn Goggle's fingers for even trying it.

      @hisham_hm @pluralistic @aperezdc

      In conversation Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:55:13 JST permalink
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      pglpm (pglpm@c.im)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:55:16 JST pglpm pglpm
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      • Cory Doctorow
      • Strypey
      • Hisham
      • Pixel Doge

      @strypey @hisham_hm @pluralistic @aperezdc

      First, it's very doubtful that the stated goals (for the "user") are the true goals. Second, one should report not only what the user "desires", but what the full consequences for the user are.

      The proposal is very deceitful in saying "the user desires...", "the user wants...", and so on. It says explicitly what the "user" desires, but it doesn't say explicitly that the user itself will in fact be abused.

      Suppose I want some guard, who reports to me, to constantly follow you and to check what you do. "Wouldn't you like to be safe on the streets?", I ask you. "Of course", you reply. And here's my solution: I'll assign a guard that controls your every movement, when you go out. Funny that this was done "for" you, and yet you feel treated as the problem.

      In conversation Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:55:16 JST permalink
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      pglpm (pglpm@c.im)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:55:16 JST pglpm pglpm
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      • Cory Doctorow
      • Strypey
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      • Pixel Doge

      @strypey @hisham_hm @pluralistic @aperezdc

      Update: from what's reported here: https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium/issues/2432 it looks like WEI is already undergoing implementation in Chromium. I haven't checked the truth of this report, though.

      In conversation Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:55:16 JST permalink

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        Reject Google's malicious [WEI] Web Environment Integrity infiltration from upstream Chromium · Issue #2432 · ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium
        Description Reject Google's malicious [WEI] Web Environment Integrity infiltration from upstream Chromium Who's implementing? I'm willing to implement this feature myself The problem The upstream C...
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      Hisham (hisham_hm@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:55:24 JST Hisham Hisham
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      • Pixel Doge

      @aperezdc oh boy I haven't heard about this latest Google thing but from the name alone it gives me strong Microsoft Secure Boot vibes

      In conversation Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:55:24 JST permalink
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      Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:55:24 JST Strypey Strypey
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      • Cory Doctorow
      • Hisham
      • Pixel Doge

      @hisham_hm
      > I haven't heard about this latest Google thing [Web Environment Integrity proposal] but from the name alone it gives me strong Microsoft Secure Boot vibes

      You mean this?
      https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/blob/main/explainer.md

      The stated goals seem reasonable, but I guess as with Restrited Boot, the devil is in the details. I don't have the knowledge to fully evaluate it, but I look forward to seeing someone like RMS or @pluralistic comment on it.

      @aperezdc

      In conversation Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:55:24 JST permalink

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      Pixel Doge (aperezdc@oldbytes.space)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:55:25 JST Pixel Doge Pixel Doge
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      • Hisham

      @hisham_hm while there are other sites for specific things (like Bitsavers) you make a good point about archive.org — I do trust their ability to keep infrastructure running, though. I would be more worrier about it being headquartered in a country with values and legislation often opposed to the Archive's goals. Also, mixing this with Google's recent Web Environment Integrity proposal makes me think we may see a day where two parallel Internets exist: the corporate one, and the “archived” one. And, oh boy!, do I want to be proven wrong about this thought!

      In conversation Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:55:25 JST permalink

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        Internet Archive: Digital Library of Free & Borrowable Books, Movies, Music & Wayback Machine
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      Hisham (hisham_hm@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:55:26 JST Hisham Hisham
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      • Pixel Doge

      @aperezdc I'm also getting worried that more and more the answer to "information X can be found at..." is so often archive.org. I love archive.org, and the work they do is great, but that's a sign they're becoming a single point of failure for a lot of stuff, which also inevitably makes them more of a target too.

      In conversation Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:55:26 JST permalink

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        Internet Archive: Digital Library of Free & Borrowable Books, Movies, Music & Wayback Machine
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      Pixel Doge (aperezdc@oldbytes.space)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:55:27 JST Pixel Doge Pixel Doge
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      People talk about how search engine results have gotten worse lately. Here's a clear example: trying to search how an #Amiga mouse works (protocol, pinouts, etc.) these days results in a few pages of links to sites trying to sell you adaptors, and links to actual documentation are a few pages deep (if at all). It used not to be like this, the #enshittification is real.

      I know the information is in the Amiga Hardware Reference Manual, which can be read at a few places, e.g. https://archive.org/details/amiga-hardware-reference-manual-3rd-edition/page/327/mode/1up — but what if I didn't know?

      In conversation Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:55:27 JST permalink

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        Amiga Hardware Reference Manual 3rd Edition
        AMIGA TECHNICAL REFERENCE SERIESIntroductionCoprocessor hardwarePlayfield hardwareSprite hardwareAudio hardwareBlitter hardwareSystem Control hardwareInterface hardware
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      Pixel Doge (aperezdc@oldbytes.space)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:55:28 JST Pixel Doge Pixel Doge
      • Foone🏳️‍⚧️

      I keep thinking of silly ideas to do some tinkering with electronics, just for the sake of having fun. Today's idea: an adapter to use #Amiga mice on #MSX computers. That way one could use one of those newfangled USB “tank” mice in one more retro architecture, while looking period correct. I imagine somebody could have done such an adaptor back in the late 80s of early 90s, possibly using some i8051 microcontroller... Betcha @foone would have liked that, given how their “it's always an i8051” is their equivalent of Dr. House's “it's never lupus” :blobeyes:

      In conversation Monday, 31-Jul-2023 07:55:28 JST permalink

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