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   Ro (are0h@ubiqueros.com)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 23:38:32 JST Ro

   If bigots on the fedi truly believed their communities were superior, they wouldn't be banging on our doors trying to bully us into not blocking them en masse.
   
   They know without the ability to harass us, they would just turn on each other.

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     Ro (are0h@ubiqueros.com)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 23:58:26 JST Ro

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     I remember joining the fedi back in the day and immediately noticing how hateful it was, so I talked about it.
     
     The popular response was, 'Then start your server and leave.' Ha, so I did. I started Play Vicious.
     
     And those same people who told me to do my own thing harassed us to such an extent my team didn't want to do it anymore.
     
     Those same people are now bitterly complaining about defederation.
     
     It's not about blocklists and defederation. It's about control. They want to solely influence who does and doesn't get to be in this place.
     
     PV was a gear in the works because they didn't want Black and Brown folks here, so it pissed off many people that it became popular.
     
     Because it proved, the fedi could be more than a white utopia. It proved the fedi wanted to be more than that.
     
     And as bigots are, they've never let that go.

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     novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️ (anarchopunk_girl@kolektiva.social)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 00:48:46 JST novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️

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     • Jeff Moe

     @jebba @Are0h the problem with that as a default for fediverse instances is that it makes siloing, centralization, and network effects far easier. If you make instances siloed by default, it kind of defeats the purpose of federation allowing people to freely move and associate without necessarily having to leave their whole network behind, because the *default behavior* would then become that if you move instances you'll be disconnected from your old instance — and thus forced to leave everyone behind — instead of that having to be a specifically-chosen special case.

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     Jeff Moe (jebba@jebba.moe)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 00:48:47 JST Jeff Moe

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     @Are0h

     What do you think about doing a blocklist of everything by default, then just approving servers that don't suck?

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     Ro (are0h@ubiqueros.com)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 00:48:49 JST Ro

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     #TheBadSpace wasn't created for some personal vendetta against whomever.
     
     It was created to identify sources of harm and people that cannot stay out of our communities and are constantly trying to instigate confrontations to push us off the fedi.
     
     It was created to organize our efforts and create a systemic solution to systematic hate-based harassment and abuse.
     
     Even though it's in its early stages, it's working because we are talking and sharing information about where the abuse is coming from.
     
     And the sources of harm on the fedi did not anticipate that.

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     novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️ (anarchopunk_girl@kolektiva.social)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 00:55:36 JST novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️

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     • Jeff Moe

     @jebba @Are0h I don't know if that would really help because it would seriously cut off and disadvantage new and small instances. I totally understand the problem you're trying to solve with this but I think it causes other issues

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     Jeff Moe (jebba@jebba.moe)'s status on Monday, 31-Jul-2023 00:55:39 JST Jeff Moe

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     • novatorine 🏴🏳️‍⚧️

     @anarchopunk_girl @Are0h

     Well, I don't mean it would be a single silo. Like the approved list would be perhaps a few thousand servers or so, as the network grows. As a starting point, the Fedipact servers could be used.

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     kroner (kroner@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Aug-2023 04:51:24 JST kroner

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     • LovecraftEnthusiast :shyduck:
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     I eventually found https://wasabi.com/ and pay 6$/month for storage, infinitely better
     Fediverse Contractor likes this.
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     kroner (kroner@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Aug-2023 04:51:25 JST kroner

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     • LovecraftEnthusiast :shyduck:
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     I turned on cloudfront for a week for seal cafe once (was trying to use S3 + Cloudfront CDN for images) and it cost me 500$, true story
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     unknown (unknown@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Aug-2023 04:51:25 JST unknown

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     • LovecraftEnthusiast :shyduck:
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     and thats why i (ab)use lain.la s3 storage. free storage. free bandwidth. free cdn.
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     kroner (kroner@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Aug-2023 04:51:26 JST kroner

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     • LovecraftEnthusiast :shyduck:
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     seal cafe currently costs around 684$/year to run even. idk how he came up with 5K unless he's hosting on AWS maybe?
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     unknown (unknown@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Aug-2023 04:51:26 JST unknown

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     • kroner
     • LovecraftEnthusiast :shyduck:
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     i doubt even AWS would cost that much... seal cafe runs on vultur, right?
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     kroner (kroner@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Aug-2023 04:51:27 JST kroner

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     • LovecraftEnthusiast :shyduck:
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     So basically he wants 5K for allocating a server to run his software that looks like ass (doubt it costs that much to host it) and 15K to hire some people (dude trust me bro) to help him develop it and then 20K to pocket himself :blobcatnerd: (probably will pocket all of it)
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     unknown (unknown@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Aug-2023 04:51:27 JST unknown

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     • kroner
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     5k for a fucking vps? even fucking hardware + colocation for 1 year is cheaper
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     gray (gray@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Aug-2023 04:51:28 JST gray

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     @kroner @LovecraftEnthusiast @Are0h Don’t forget the trannies too. Can’t believe you’d erase trans people like that and in the current year too smh
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     kroner (kroner@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Aug-2023 04:51:29 JST kroner

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     • LovecraftEnthusiast :shyduck:
     Apparently he already made 7K on his GoFundMe
     
     Guess you just have to be a nigger and ask for money online to get paid
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     LovecraftEnthusiast :shyduck: (lovecraftenthusiast@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Aug-2023 04:51:30 JST LovecraftEnthusiast :shyduck:

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     Greetings nigger, have you managed to scam $40k yet to work on your completely nonfunctional website yet?
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Aug-2023 04:56:18 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     • kroner
     • LovecraftEnthusiast :shyduck:
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     Why does it cost so much more if it does the same thing?