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???? (praxisofevil@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 04:32:53 JST ???? I remember reading a forum post from a black guy about 8 years ago where he said he wasn't worried about white supremacy as much as he was worried about migrants pouring in from the southern border. Funny to see how other groups cope with being replaced, but it doesn't matter anyway because they're never going to stop voting Democrat -
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of nothing (apropos@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 04:32:50 JST of nothing @Quentel @PraxisOfEvil
motte: you can't vote your way out of this
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Quentel (quentel@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 04:32:51 JST Quentel You’re not going to voot your way out of this mess.
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of nothing (apropos@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 04:32:52 JST of nothing @Quentel @PraxisOfEvil you've been poisoned by propaganda: that a large numbers grants a 'mandate'. That you have a strategy to avoid a mandate is just the poison working. The real rejection is not care at the numbers and deny 'mandates' for a variety of real reasons, such as: a candidate just isn't a single-issue resolution brought to the voters. Not voting won't result in politicians lying to you, at best it will slightly change the lie: "I have a mandate because if people really opposed me, they would've shown up to vote against me." NEETzsche likes this. -
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Quentel (quentel@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 04:32:53 JST Quentel The vote they cast makes no difference in the outcome. However, the overall quantity of ballads that they collect does matter.
The system only needs to show that they held ‘an election’. This shows that people have co-signed the legitimacy of the system that rules them. The quantity of votes are used to represent legitimacy.
The facade will quickly fall once people stop showing up to consent to a system that does not serve their interests.
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of nothing (apropos@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 04:33:27 JST of nothing @Quentel @PraxisOfEvil
>disingenuously
I'm sincere. You're disingenuous. This is not a sincere request and there's nothing wrong with my invocation of motte-and-bailey.
>conflates two positions
1. you can't vote your way out of this
2. voting doesn't matter
>which share similarities
they're both suggest that voting isn't that worthwhile
>one modest
1. if *all* you do is vote, nothing will change. You have to do something in addition to voting, because *you can't vote your way out of this*
>one much more controversial
2. Don't vote. Don't care about voting blocs. Don't try to influence anyone's vote. There's is literally no point to caring about votes because *voting doesn't matter*
>Would you care to make an argument against any of them?
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Quentel (quentel@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 04:33:28 JST Quentel If you’re going to try to disingenuously invoke the motte-and-bailey fallacy to bolster your position, then you should at least understand it so it can be used properly. The positions that were presented were simple and very straightforward. Would you care to make an argument against any of them?
The motte-and-bailey fallacy (named after the motte-and-bailey castle) is a form of argument and an informal fallacy where an arguer conflates two positions that share similarities, one modest and easy to defend (the “motte”) and one much more controversial and harder to defend (the “bailey”).
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