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   goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 18:44:49 JST goatsarah
   The barely concealed glee from climate doomers with their crescendo of “look at the graphs! We’re all going to die, and it was totally your fault for putting an aluminium bun case in the black bin that one time” is, I have to be honest, kinda getting me down.
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     goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 20:27:49 JST goatsarah

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     • Maria Karlsen

     @shimriez Lots of us do what we can do. The reality is though that none of it makes any difference. Our actions on an individual level are irrelevant. It would be like trying to build a 747 by individuals making paper aeroplanes.

     The people who can fix this are governments and massive industries, and they don’t want to.

     There is literally no point in the constant moralising and insinuation that we’re all fucked because we didn’t believe in fairies, er I mean recycling, hard enough.

     It’s just terrifying people for the sake of terrifying people.

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     Maria Karlsen (shimriez@zotum.net)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 20:27:50 JST Maria Karlsen

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     @Sarah Brown I think we must allow us to be humans and make those occational mistakes. What is important is the direction, not the bumps on the road. I recycle a lot, but there are days when I am less thorough. I don't drive an electric car because.. well money but also because I have no place to charge one. Instead I've chosen one as small and light as I can live with. It's not perfect but it's what I can currently do.
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     goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 20:53:16 JST goatsarah

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     • Maria Karlsen

     @shimriez When I say none of it makes any difference, I'm specifically talking about the effect individual actions have on climate change. To a first approximation, this is zero, and has little scope for it to be any other number.

     I agree that we can very definitely make a difference in how people feel, and this is the source of my complaint: the constant stream of "we are all going to die, because we are filthy eco-sinners" articles just make people feel like shit.

     It's basically doom and gloom protestantism, but with the climate playing the role of their god.

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     Maria Karlsen (shimriez@zotum.net)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 20:53:17 JST Maria Karlsen

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     @Sarah Brown While I agree that it's the governments and industries that are the biggest polluters and have the most power to change things - if they want to. I still think that what many millions of people do or don't do also matters. If nothing else to keep hope up and despair down.