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    David Revoy (davidrevoy@framapiaf.org)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 23:52:17 JST David Revoy David Revoy

    Fighting for the open web.

    #krita #MastoArt #ArtWithOpensource
    #Firefox #Privacy #Chrome #WebEnvironmentIntegrity

    In conversation Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 23:52:17 JST from framapiaf.org permalink

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    1. https://stockage.framapiaf.org/framapiaf/media_attachments/files/110/786/515/915/333/576/original/cf6fcc5ff61c76e7.jpg
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      clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 01:41:29 JST clacke clacke
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      • Lutfulmanan Khan

      @lutfulmanan The Open Web is the Web we still have for now.

      Someone saw those embarrassing "Best viewed with Microsoft Internet Explorer" GIFs and thought that not only was it a great idea, it didn't even go far enough, as it didn't actively block other browsers.

      That's "Web Environment Integrity".

      @davidrevoy

      In conversation Friday, 28-Jul-2023 01:41:29 JST permalink
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      Lutfulmanan Khan (lutfulmanan@mastodon.online)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 01:41:32 JST Lutfulmanan Khan Lutfulmanan Khan
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      @davidrevoy What is an Open web? Darknet?

      In conversation Friday, 28-Jul-2023 01:41:32 JST permalink
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      Omni (omnisable@meow.social)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 01:41:38 JST Omni Omni
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      @davidrevoy the scale is somewhat accurate. The user base of FIrefox is unfortunately small and declining 8(

      In conversation Friday, 28-Jul-2023 01:41:38 JST permalink
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      Ethan Black (golemwire@social.librem.one)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 08:40:13 JST Ethan Black Ethan Black
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      @davidrevoy I was thinking this was a Majora's Mask reference 😄

      In conversation Friday, 28-Jul-2023 08:40:13 JST permalink
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      Dan Oachs (doachs@ipv6.social)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 13:25:14 JST Dan Oachs Dan Oachs
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      @davidrevoy Pretty sure I can hear this image, and chrome has a very scary sound to it.

      In conversation Friday, 28-Jul-2023 13:25:14 JST permalink
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      Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 19:00:11 JST Aral Balkan Aral Balkan
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      @davidrevoy Love your work, David. And it’s definitely not your fault that we live in the worst possible timeline but what’s missing in that image is the hand from Google giving Mozilla half a billion dollars.

      (Mozilla exists on roughly half a billion dollars from Google every year. Sadly, they’re not so much adversaries as partners.)

      In conversation Friday, 28-Jul-2023 19:00:11 JST permalink
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      Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 19:06:54 JST Aral Balkan Aral Balkan
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      • Henkka Laukka

      @laukanhenkka Google is a publicly-traded corporation with a fiduciary duty to its shareholders.

      They cannot just give some organisation half a billion dollars unless they can make the case that they’re getting more than half a billion dollars of value back from their investment.

      Most visibly, Mozilla makes Google its default search engine on Firefox.

      More than that, Mozilla gets to exist thanks to Google. No half a billion a year from Google, no Mozilla, no Firefox.

      @davidrevoy

      In conversation Friday, 28-Jul-2023 19:06:54 JST permalink
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      Henkka Laukka (laukanhenkka@mastodonsuomi.fi)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 19:06:56 JST Henkka Laukka Henkka Laukka
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      • Aral Balkan

      @aral What does this partnership entail? Is FF doing something beneficial for Google to get their money?

      @davidrevoy

      In conversation Friday, 28-Jul-2023 19:06:56 JST permalink
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      Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 19:43:50 JST Aral Balkan Aral Balkan
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      @davidrevoy I hear you and empathise :)

      > if we all used Firefox with UblockOrigin, the toxic adv industry wouldn't be such a monster

      If we all used Firefox with UblockOrigin, Google would go bankrupt. When Google goes bankrupt, Mozilla would lose the half a billion dollars it needs from Google to survive so Mozilla would also go bankrupt. So the only way Mozilla and Firefox can continue to exist is if we don’t all use Firefox with UblockOrigin. That’s the gambit.

      In conversation Friday, 28-Jul-2023 19:43:50 JST permalink
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      David Revoy (davidrevoy@framapiaf.org)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 19:43:51 JST David Revoy David Revoy
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      • Aral Balkan

      @aral Thanks!

      Yes, I knew that. Thank you for writing this, it is useful information.

      It's hard to show all the subtle interactions and I had to sit on my own issues with Moz/Ff - e.g. all their failed non-sense side projects or recently their AI discourse to seduce investors.

      It's a limitation of my illustration that I kept it as simple as possible to be more efficient with the message: if we all used Firefox with UblockOrigin, the toxic adv industry wouldn't be such a monster.

      In conversation Friday, 28-Jul-2023 19:43:51 JST permalink
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      Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 19:51:35 JST Aral Balkan Aral Balkan
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      • immibis

      @immibis @davidrevoy And how many of those forks would be able to maintain their codebase if Mozilla went away tomorrow?

      I’d optimistically put the number at zero.

      But don’t worry, Google isn’t going anywhere so neither is Mozilla.

      In conversation Friday, 28-Jul-2023 19:51:35 JST permalink
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      immibis (immibis@social.immibis.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 19:51:49 JST immibis immibis
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      • Aral Balkan
      @aral @davidrevoy Mozilla doesn't need to survive for Firefox to survive and be useful. There are already many forks of Firefox by people who think Mozilla already shouldn't have survived.
      In conversation Friday, 28-Jul-2023 19:51:49 JST permalink
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      翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 19:54:46 JST 翠星石 翠星石
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      • Aral Balkan
      @aral >If we all used Firefox with UblockOrigin, Google would go bankrupt.
      Google sadly wouldn't, as they do have other sources of revenue other than advertising.

      ublock origin can prevent advertising spying, but it doesn't seem to be very effective against the spying functionality built into all the proprietary JavaScript google sends.

      >Mozilla would lose the half a billion dollars it needs from Google to survive
      Mozilla needs the half a billion to copy google in implementing all the new spying features and EME things

      Without google's payments, their business could easily survive, but they would be forced to actually improve the browser instead of making it worse.
      In conversation Friday, 28-Jul-2023 19:54:46 JST permalink
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      Iza Marfisi (imarfisi@mas.to)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 18:34:05 JST Iza Marfisi Iza Marfisi
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      @davidrevoy can I use your art in the last chapter of my habilitation thesis to direct research? How should I cite it properly?
      Thank you.

      In conversation Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 18:34:05 JST permalink
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      David Revoy (davidrevoy@framapiaf.org)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 18:34:06 JST David Revoy David Revoy
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      • Iza Marfisi

      @imarfisi :blobcatheart:

      In conversation Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 18:34:06 JST permalink
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      Iza Marfisi (imarfisi@mas.to)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 18:34:07 JST Iza Marfisi Iza Marfisi
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      @davidrevoy
      This is fantastic work! 👀 Very inspiring 😍
      We are lucky to have you in the #Fediverse.

      In conversation Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 18:34:07 JST permalink
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      David Revoy (davidrevoy@framapiaf.org)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 18:34:08 JST David Revoy David Revoy
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      Here is the painting process of the illustration I posted today. Painted and created with the built-in Krita recorder.

      Source file and high resolution wallpaper:: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/viewer/misc__2023-07-27_Fighting-For-The-Open-Web_by-David-Revoy.html (3840x2047px, license: CC-BY 4.0)

      #Mastoart #ArtWithOpensource #krita #video #process

      In conversation Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 18:34:08 JST permalink

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      1. Domain not in remote thumbnail source whitelist: www.peppercarrot.com
        Fighting For The Open Web by David Revoy - Viewer - Pepper&Carrot
        Official homepage of Pepper&Carrot, a free(libre) and open-source webcomic about Pepper, a young witch and her cat, Carrot. They live in a fantasy universe of potions, magic, and creatures.

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