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Quad (quad@akko.quad.moe)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 06:40:48 JST Quad
what the fuck do you mean "800mm/900mm"???
is the damn thing 80cm wide or is it 90cm wide?-
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Quad (quad@akko.quad.moe)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 06:40:47 JST Quad
Is it supposed to be 90cm total but 80cm until it hits the angle of the missing corner?
shittiest measurement I've seen in a whileHaelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: likes this. -
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Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 06:41:42 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
@quad "Go back to junior high, you failed at geometry in CAD tools" -
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Neko McCatface v2023 :verified::makemeneko: (roboneko@bae.st)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 06:47:42 JST Neko McCatface v2023 :verified::makemeneko:
@lanodan @quad wish that was a junior high class here. or a class at all. that would have been really fun Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: likes this. -
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Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 06:48:45 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
@roboneko @quad I wish junior high wouldn't be shit. -
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Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 14:37:23 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
@ignaloidas @quad I don't think I did that kind of stuff in first year junior high but definitely used a CNC in junior high (which would drill in acrylic to make a clock face).
And part of the exercises was laying out the blueprints out nicely, including all the measurements.
But you would also be required to do this kind of drawing for just Math/geometry class. -
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Ignas Kiela (ignaloidas@not.acu.lt)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 14:37:25 JST Ignas Kiela
@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @quad@akko.quad.moe legitimately learned this stuff at 6th grade in a woodworking class
I facepalm every time I see shit like this from professionals -
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Ignas Kiela (ignaloidas@not.acu.lt)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 15:31:54 JST Ignas Kiela
@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @quad@akko.quad.moe ah, we only did manual machining, and even then, mostly with hand tools because serious woodworking machines are a serious danger for 12 year olds (so you'd just ask the teacher to run whatever you needed through a planer and similar stuff)
But yeah, like we spent half the time just going through various theory stuff, with a bunch of technical drawings by hand of random-ish pieces (projections from all 3 cardinal directions with measurements + a isometric projection overview), basic material properties, etc.
Also technically same class but different teacher (rotated, half year for one, half year for another) thought practical home stuff like sewing and cooking.
Great stuff.Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: likes this. -
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Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 15:34:05 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
@ignaloidas @quad Heh, I think sewing/cooking pretty much got dropped in France when they stopped gender-segregated schools. -
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Ignas Kiela (ignaloidas@not.acu.lt)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 15:40:21 JST Ignas Kiela
@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @quad@akko.quad.moe that's a shame
Having some simple sewing skills helped me out quite a lot, it's nice not needing to throw out clothing just because of some scratch or whatever.
And like cooking, you'll need to learn that at some point anyways, why not teach some stuff at school anyways.
Also, a nice benefit of these classes was that they provided some nice low-pressure time at school, which allows for school to feel like less of a slog.Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: likes this. -
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Quad (quad@akko.quad.moe)'s status on Monday, 24-Jul-2023 03:39:04 JST Quad
@ignaloidas @lanodan Same in Norway. iirc from 8th until 10th grade students are rotated between three posts, cooking, construction and art.
Cooking is obvious, construction is stuff like woodworking and clay. Art was stuff like painting, as well as textile work like embroidering and sewing.Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: likes this. -
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Quad (quad@akko.quad.moe)'s status on Monday, 24-Jul-2023 03:40:31 JST Quad
@ignaloidas @lanodan If I have one problem with Norway's system, at least the way I was when I went to school, it's that they spread it way too thin.
Like you'd have 3 whole months to make a knife handle out of wood, then you barely did anything else related to woodworking.
Same with cooking, the most complex thing they got around to teaching us was how to bake a loaf of bread. And that was only difficult because you could kill your yeast.Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: likes this. -
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Quad (quad@akko.quad.moe)'s status on Monday, 24-Jul-2023 03:52:20 JST Quad
@wolf480pl @ignaloidas @lanodan At least you have safety class.
School here in Norway gave me like a single demonstration of CPR in 7th grade and I remember nothing of itHaelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: likes this. -
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Wolf480pl (wolf480pl@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 24-Jul-2023 03:52:21 JST Wolf480pl
Both were rather low priority and a lot depended on how much effort the teacher was willing to put in.
Also, Art was separate, often merged with Music.
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Wolf480pl (wolf480pl@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 24-Jul-2023 03:52:22 JST Wolf480pl
@ignaloidas @lanodan @quad
In Poland we had a "technics" class, but it wasn't anywhere as practical as what any of you describe. Maybe because my school wasn't equipped for it... we mostly learnt basics of technical drawings, and some theory^W factoids about types of polymers and stuff. One year it included some cooking.It was 45min/week for one semester, the other semester being "safety class" which was basics of first aid and firefighting.
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Ignas Kiela (ignaloidas@not.acu.lt)'s status on Monday, 24-Jul-2023 03:52:24 JST Ignas Kiela
@quad@akko.quad.moe @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me ah, we had 90 minutes (usually consecutive) per week, so a fair bit more
still had a fairly loose schedules for doing stuff, but usually that wasn't spread out too thin IMO.
Though art/painting class was separate, 45 minutes a week thing.
Actually, seems like "informal" education has to make up around a third of total education time here, which is nice. -
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Quad (quad@akko.quad.moe)'s status on Monday, 24-Jul-2023 03:52:25 JST Quad
@ignaloidas @lanodan It felt like anyone who can follow an instruction manual from Ikea would be able to pass those classes. (Except painting because i have zero imagination) Classes were only 45 minutes per week for 3 months each iirc. So only a total of like 3 hours per month.
Still a lot better than nothing though. -
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Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Monday, 24-Jul-2023 03:53:11 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
@quad @wolf480pl @ignaloidas I had basics of first aid (AFAIK not common, I guess school opted-in) but not firefighting. -
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Ignas Kiela (ignaloidas@not.acu.lt)'s status on Monday, 24-Jul-2023 03:54:05 JST Ignas Kiela
@wolf480pl@mstdn.io @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @quad@akko.quad.moe damn, now that I think about it, we had quite a lot of non-science-y subjects.
We had Music (1x week), Art/Painting (1x week, mostly painting, but did some clay stuff a couple times), Technologies (1x week, but double time in a row, what I described earlier), Ethics/Religion (1x week, which one you got put in depended on how religious your parents were, ethics was mostly chatting philosophy, idk religion), Citizenship/public spirit (1x week, idk how to translate, depended heavily on the teacher, mostly talking about your role in country as a citizen and stuff), Public safety (1x week every other year, essentially some health and fire safety stuff + public alarm stuff).
None were that important, and grades were mostly non-existent, but actually seems like it all took up a quite a fair bit of the total schedule. If only programs of some of the more science-y subjects weren't so shit, it would be a pretty damn good education system.Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: likes this.
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