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Lmao
Console ver of Lisa got some extra dumb censorship on Playstation
https://twitter.com/SerenityForge/status/1681136379500085248
"changing cigarettes and alcohol to candy cigarettes and soda on the Playstation version of this M rated game"
Also other dumb supposed self-censorship, I found this accompanying picture. Because you know, dark nono humor in this fucked game full of nono jokes and fucked up content is NOT okay!
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@coolboymew this tweet said it best: 4kids is back :blobjoy:
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@coolboymew > definitive edition
> removed stuff
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@ChristiJunior @Pawlicker @coolboymew
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@CleverMoniker @Pawlicker @ChristiJunior @coolboymew Sony saw the PS3 has no games memes and mistook it for a competitive edge.
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@Pawlicker @coolboymew No games, but tons of censorship. #PS5
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@ChristiJunior @coolboymew SCEA censorship was worse than MS/Nintendo back in the day too, games like BMX XXX got censored on Sony (which is funny to think about). SCEA also was infamously stricter about what games could be released.
No really. I forget where I read it, but SCEA is why cult games like Global Defense Force did not get a USA release because it didn't meet the quality standards (which only got dropped in the Wii era, when Sony was letting any shovelware show up on the PS2 in the USA). But EDF 2017 got a 360 release and then Sony decided to let the others get released.
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@coolboymew @Moon Well if it's mandatory changes, it's not really self-censorship, just regular censorship with forcing authors to do the shit themselves.
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@Moon Now I have to argue with dumb fucks elsewhere again that self-censorship (ESPECIALLY ABOUT THIS FUCKING GAME OF ALL THINGS) is the exact same as censorship
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@lanodan @coolboymew censorship and self censorship are different but they are both the same in the sense that you couldn't get the original material because of a moral busybody
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this is just stupid :cripes:
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@Moon @coolboymew To me:
- Self-censorship is only when one chooses to not say something by their own choices
- Censorship is when a block or mandatory change happens due to third-parties (state, distributors, …)
And trying to frame censorship as is it would be self-censorship seems like manipulation to me.
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@lanodan @coolboymew self censorship is when you say to yourself "man I am not saying this out loud because I am afraid of the social consequences" it isn't when you voluntarily agree to cuts or your stuff won't be published.
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@Moon @coolboymew Pretty much.
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@lanodan @Moon yeah, but bad actors are Jim Sterling and co are poisoning the well very much about this. They're all acting as if there's no pushes that causes these kinda changes in the first place
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@Moon @lanodan They more or less end up being the same because of this reason yes. You can move goalposts all they want, but self-censorship usually still happens because of outside push
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@Moon @lanodan *all they want
Or else it makes it seems like I'm condemning Moon lol
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@roboneko @Moon @coolboymew Yeah, there's a line you can have to draw at some point.
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@Moon @lanodan @coolboymew
> man I am not saying this out loud because I am afraid of the social consequences (a few friends or family might be a bit bothered)
> man I am not saying this out loud because I am afraid of the social consequences (I'd probably get fired from my job (it's a broad cultural taboo that arose on its own over many generations))
> man I am not saying this out loud because I am afraid of the social consequences (I'd probably lose my job (there has been a coordinated effort by bad actors to steer the cultural landscape towards this outcome over the past several years))