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    goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 16:37:57 JST goatsarah goatsarah

    “I tried the fediverse and didn’t follow anyone and it sucked, so I stopped and went back to Twitter again.”

    These people would have hated Twitter circa 2008 when it had pretty much exactly the same issue.

    But that’s the point of social media: to find likeminded people with common interests. Somewhere along the line that changed into social media being a thing that tells you what you think, and what you should be liking.

    That’s easy, but it’s mental refined sugar. It’s just incredibly crap for you.

    If you want interesting, fun and stimulating stuff, follow interesting, fun and stimulating people.

    In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 16:37:57 JST from thegoatery.dyndns.org permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 16:40:18 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      I mean, the fediverse has well over a million regularly active users, and many more occasional ones. Some of those are gonna be writing stuff you want to read.

      If someone looks vaguely interesting, FOLLOW THEM. They will likely be boosting other stuff you find interesting. Follow the people who post that. This way you will home on on “your people”.

      It’s really that simple.

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 16:40:18 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 16:53:04 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski

      @zimowski If you aren’t seeing the other people on your server, there are two reasons for this. Either defederation (unlikely unless you’re looking for shitheads on shithead instances), or far more likely, they aren’t federated to your server because NOBODY IS FOLLOWING THEM THERE.

      I repeat, if posts aren’t making it to your server, it’s because NOBODY IS ASKING FOR THEM.

      If you want to see someone’s posts on your server, maybe try following them?

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 16:53:04 JST permalink
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 16:53:05 JST zimowski zimowski
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      @goatsarah Mastodon also limits who you can see. I mentioned I can browse through other people's followers to follow them. I can't read some accounts because they are on another server (even when someone recommends them). It's never been an issue on Twitter or other socials. You could follow and read whomever you wanted

      The problem is that Mastodon isn't a finished project, it doesn't work properly, so it's hard to use it. Problem is definitely not in users. Because users are never the problem.

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 16:53:05 JST permalink
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 16:53:06 JST zimowski zimowski
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      @goatsarah I've been on twitter for 12 years and I've been using internet since my childhood. I've been on social networks in 2000s and always found lots of friends.

      The only different is that people used to post art, food, stuff they like, etc. Internet was very innocent.

      Now people are posting politics and how they hate politicians/millionaires and making their whole persona be based on that. They don't even mix it with a more feel-good content. That's the problem, not some 'refined sugar'

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 16:53:06 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 16:54:34 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski

      @zimowski My feed is full of people posting food, art, stuff they like, etc.

      And I’ve been on the internet since 1992. It was never “very innocent”.

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 16:54:34 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:04:18 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski
      @zimowski Praising Mastodon? Mate, I’m not even on Mastodon. I have an account there which I never use to occasionally test stuff. That’s it.
      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:04:18 JST permalink
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:04:20 JST zimowski zimowski
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      @goatsarah and half of that millions are writign stupid posts like you, just praising Mastodon and not adding any value to the service.

      The other half are posting about how bad twitter and elon musk are.

      That's it.

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:04:20 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:08:35 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski

      @zimowski “Enjoying aggression”

      I just went to my feed and looked at the first posts. They are, in order:

      A news article about taxation

      A picture of a friend’s pet

      An article about renewable energy use and how it’s increasing

      A technical support question about video hosting

      Someone posting their daily Wordle result

      Landscape photography

      News about Ukraine

      Commentary on what Twitter’s death means for LGBT rights

      Someone saying good morning.

      Oh, and these are all within 5 minutes.

      Honestly, the only aggression here (other than reporting on the Russian stuff but, you know, current events), is coming from you.

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:08:35 JST permalink
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:08:37 JST zimowski zimowski
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      @goatsarah well, here's the problem. you are enjoying agression online and different shit, I like positive content which is not on Mastodon. I'm looking though hashtags, there are fewer than one post per day for most of them.

      Yet discussions like this are very popular. People like you are praising Mastodon and trying to convince others that Mastodon is great. If it were great indeed you didn't have to try to convince me.

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:08:37 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:09:56 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski

      @zimowski yes. It appears someone on your Mastodon server follows me, and hence sees my posts.

      But I myself do not use it.

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:09:56 JST permalink
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:09:58 JST zimowski zimowski
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      @goatsarah well idk where you are but I'm on Mastodon and you are here too

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:09:58 JST permalink
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      Anders Puck Nielsen (anderspuck@krigskunst.social)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:15:29 JST Anders Puck Nielsen Anders Puck Nielsen
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      • zimowski

      @zimowski @goatsarah No. But we are tired of hearing people who only follow 21 accounts saying that nothing is happening here.

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:15:29 JST permalink
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:15:30 JST zimowski zimowski
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      • Anders Puck Nielsen

      @anderspuck @goatsarah are you real people? Why are you all saying the same stuff? Are you brainwashed

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:15:30 JST permalink
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      Anders Puck Nielsen (anderspuck@krigskunst.social)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:15:31 JST Anders Puck Nielsen Anders Puck Nielsen
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      • zimowski

      @zimowski @goatsarah Not actually. Try following people.

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:15:31 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:24:18 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski
      @zimowski I expect someone they followed reposted something I said. I’ve got over a thousand followers. They must have come from somewhere. My instance only has five people on it in total.
      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:24:18 JST permalink
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:24:19 JST zimowski zimowski
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      @goatsarah how did they follow you? how does the first person follow you if they can't see your account because it's not loaded

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:24:19 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:26:34 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • Kincaid
      @kincaid Oh my sweet, sweet summer child 😉
      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:26:34 JST permalink
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      Kincaid (kincaid@mendeddrum.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:26:35 JST Kincaid Kincaid
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      @goatsarah

      Wow. My first block over here. It's been 9 months

      (Yes obvs I have pale male & stale priv)

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:26:35 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:32:39 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski
      • Anders Puck Nielsen
      @zimowski @anderspuck “Why are the people I’m asking for advice on how to build a timeline here, who have timelines here, all giving the same answer? I want a different answer! They must all be wrong!”
      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:32:39 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:42:19 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • Dave Heinemann 🇦🇺
      @dHeinemann That’s what Twitter was fifteen years ago too, and it was actually kinda fun.
      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:42:19 JST permalink
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      Dave Heinemann 🇦🇺 (dheinemann@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:42:20 JST Dave Heinemann 🇦🇺 Dave Heinemann 🇦🇺
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      @goatsarah

      > Somewhere along the line that changed into social media being a thing that tells you what you think, and what you should be liking.

      I really appreciate that Mastodon has no algorithm. I've set up my timeline with exactly the kind of people and content I want to see, and it's finite in quantity. There's no algorithm to push an agenda on me, or to keep me engaged with a never-ending feed of content.

      There's only what I asked for. No more, no less.

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:42:20 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:47:03 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski
      • Sam Cuypers
      @cloudedjudge @zimowski Why are you saying the same things as everyone else? Are you working for … THEM?!? (Da da daaaaaa!)
      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:47:03 JST permalink
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      Sam Cuypers (cloudedjudge@toot.bike)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:47:04 JST Sam Cuypers Sam Cuypers
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      • zimowski

      @zimowski @goatsarah mate, I just scrolled through your recent posts and replies and all I can see is complaining about timelines, following and how broken Mastodon is. You say there isn't enough 'real' content here. Have you ever considered you might be part of the problem?

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 17:47:04 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:00:06 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski

      @zimowski Because I likely replied to someone else’s post and they clicked through to my profile.

      Servers fetch posts if someone on the local server interacts with them.

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:00:06 JST permalink
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:00:07 JST zimowski zimowski
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      @goatsarah how did the one they followed found you if your profile wasn't loaded?

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:00:07 JST permalink
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      Sam Cuypers (cloudedjudge@toot.bike)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:05:24 JST Sam Cuypers Sam Cuypers
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      • zimowski

      @zimowski @goatsarah that's bullshit, that's clearly not what I'm saying. I'm not interested in whatever it is your trying to do here to entertain yourself. It's Saturday morning, I got pictures of cats to look at. Bye now.

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:05:24 JST permalink
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:05:25 JST zimowski zimowski
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      • Sam Cuypers

      @cloudedjudge @goatsarah of course everyone who doesn't like mastodon is a problem. That's just basic propaganda :)

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:05:25 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:20:09 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski
      @zimowski And yet your posts are on my server. Astonishing how that happened isn’t it?
      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:20:09 JST permalink
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:20:10 JST zimowski zimowski
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      @goatsarah I don't know if I want to see someone's posts before I see their posts.

      Why can't they make it to my server if I explicitly ask for them when I open someone's account? It's like not showing you a website because no one from your town has visited it before. Imagine seeing "Google can't be loaded, please subscribe and hope that it'll be fixed one day"

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:20:10 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:28:50 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski
      • Anders Puck Nielsen
      @zimowski @anderspuck “How dare people answer my question!”
      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:28:50 JST permalink
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:28:51 JST zimowski zimowski
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      • Anders Puck Nielsen

      @anderspuck @goatsarah how hard could it be? You see people that you follow. It's not rocket science. And it's the same system that is used on Twitter. And the same that was used everywhere in 2000s. I still have it on wordpress too. And it's also hard to find blogs to read but I managed that somehow. Just I didn't have a dozen of people coming after me for not following enough blogs

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      Anders Puck Nielsen (anderspuck@krigskunst.social)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:28:52 JST Anders Puck Nielsen Anders Puck Nielsen
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      • zimowski

      @zimowski @goatsarah Ok, go ahead and do what you want, then. But it does seem to me that you don't understand how things end up in your timeline in a non-algorithmic system.

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:28:52 JST permalink
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:28:53 JST zimowski zimowski
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      • Anders Puck Nielsen

      @anderspuck @goatsarah you are still repeating the same things. Are you people given some kind of instruction? Why is everyone saying the same thing?

      I know I have to follow people. I'm just saying that it's hard to find them (mostly because explore and live feeds and full of stuff I'm not interested in). It doesn't mean I'm not going to follow people. But I don't do mass-following, i don't follow randoms, and 800 accounts is more than i've ever followed on all my socials altogether.

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:28:53 JST permalink
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      Anders Puck Nielsen (anderspuck@krigskunst.social)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:28:55 JST Anders Puck Nielsen Anders Puck Nielsen
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      • zimowski

      @zimowski @goatsarah You need to follow hundreds to get a lively timeline. In the beginning just follow everyone that seems vaguely interesting, and then clean up later. I know it takes some work – we have all been there. I follow almost 800 accounts, and I obviously didn't find those people on day one either.

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:28:55 JST permalink
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:28:56 JST zimowski zimowski
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      • Anders Puck Nielsen

      @anderspuck @goatsarah if you are tired get some rest. If i follow 21 people it means I haven't found more to follow

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:28:56 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:55:43 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski
      @zimowski it is. If you follow someone, your server will fetch those posts.
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:55:44 JST zimowski zimowski
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      @goatsarah it's too complicated for no reason. Why woul I ,as a user, care about servers and fetching. Fetching should be automated upon each request from the user

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:55:44 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:57:00 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski

      @zimowski You are so very close to getting it.

      It’s because you are interacting with me. You complain that it should happen automatically. It literally is.

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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 18:57:01 JST zimowski zimowski
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      well, you are the smartest here, you are explaining how it's working, so it's up to you to explain this mystery

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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 21:11:09 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski
      • ajlanes

      @zimowski @ajlanes Presumably because nobody on your instance is following that account.

      Why would your instance fetch random shit nobody has asked for, or tried to interact with?

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 21:11:09 JST permalink
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 21:11:10 JST zimowski zimowski
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      • ajlanes

      @ajlanes @goatsarah it's not

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      ajlanes (ajlanes@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 21:11:11 JST ajlanes ajlanes
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      • zimowski
      @goatsarah @zimowski Er, it is automated exactly as you say.
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 21:21:09 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski
      • ajlanes
      @zimowski @ajlanes Then presumably nobody has posted since you followed it.
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 21:21:10 JST zimowski zimowski
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      • ajlanes

      @goatsarah @ajlanes you are trolling, right?

      I am asking for it. I followed that account because you and your friends are telling me to follow people.

      This accouint was recommended by another person, so I followed it. But I still can't see what's there.

      In conversation Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 21:21:10 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 21:47:43 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski
      • ajlanes
      @zimowski @ajlanes You can see old posts on the account’s own server. It won’t fetch stuff that was posted before anyone started requesting it.
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 21:47:44 JST zimowski zimowski
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      • ajlanes

      @goatsarah @ajlanes so I can't see the old posts? Never? Maybe that's why when I'm browsing through hashtags there's almost nothing there? Then how am I supposed to find people if I see nothing?

      Also, why your friends were saying it automatically fetches everything when I follow someone.... Did they lie? Or is the whole system not so transparent even for advocates of fediverse like you?

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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 23:23:50 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski
      • ajlanes
      @zimowski @ajlanes These transactions are not zero cost. Servers fetch what they need to. They will not waste time fetching stuff that nobody is interacting with.
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 23:23:51 JST zimowski zimowski
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      • ajlanes

      @goatsarah @ajlanes and it's strange. Why not? When I'm checking hashtags I want to see the old posts, i want to scroll through stuff. And I'm not allowed to... becaue.... have no idea why

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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 23:57:11 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski
      • ajlanes
      @zimowski @ajlanes So interact with them.
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Saturday, 15-Jul-2023 23:57:12 JST zimowski zimowski
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      @goatsarah @ajlanes I want to interract with them. So, I don't decide what I'm reading. Some kind of algorithms decide if I need to see something I want to see or not. So, it's worse than twitter, because I can't even check someone's profile.

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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 00:02:13 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski
      • ajlanes

      @zimowski @ajlanes Follow. The. Account.

      It's like talking to a brick wall.

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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 00:02:14 JST zimowski zimowski
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      @goatsarah @ajlanes how can I interract with posts I don't see

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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 00:05:37 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski
      • ajlanes
      @zimowski @ajlanes You can see them on the original profile. It says so on your screenshot.
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 00:05:38 JST zimowski zimowski
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      @goatsarah @ajlanes because you don't listen or read what I'm answering. Or you play stupid on purpose. You can see on the screenshot that I followed an account but I don't see older posts because they would never be shown to me, as you told me. And I think it's a terrible idea because if I follow someone I want to see their older posts

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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 00:18:17 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • ajlanes
      @zimowski @ajlanes You absolutely can interact with them. Follow them, mention them, whatever. You are interacting with me. We are on different servers. I'm not even on Mastodon.
      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 00:18:17 JST permalink
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 00:18:18 JST zimowski zimowski
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      • ajlanes

      @goatsarah @ajlanes but the original profile isn't even on this website. It redirects me to their website, and I can't interract with them. So what's the point of Mastodon then? It's like a catalogue of websites

      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 00:18:18 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 00:37:21 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski
      • ajlanes

      @zimowski @ajlanes It's entirely consistent and has been explained to you many, many times.

      It fetches what it needs t fetch, and gets sent what it's asked for.

      You want to see posts from an account? Follow it.

      It's that simple.

      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 00:37:21 JST permalink

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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 00:37:23 JST zimowski zimowski
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      • ajlanes

      @goatsarah @ajlanes because I can see your posts, so I interracted with them. But I don't see posts of other accounts and it's all inconsistent and illogical .

      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 00:37:23 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 00:43:46 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski
      • ajlanes

      @zimowski @ajlanes There was a post an hour ago. If you haven't seen it, it might be having issues keeping up.

      You absolutely can interact with old posts. As you're on mastodon, you should see a box that says, "search or paste URL". Paste the URL of the post you want to respond to in there. It will fetch it.

      And then you can reply.

      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 00:43:46 JST permalink
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 00:43:47 JST zimowski zimowski
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      • ajlanes

      @goatsarah @ajlanes
      1. I follow account even though I don't see its posts (which is already ridiculous)
      2. I don't see any posts after I followed it
      3. I can see any posts on their site but I can't interract with them

      What's the point of social network like that? It's not simple.

      And where is the difference between request to fetch old posts in that profile and in yours? Why yours is working and theirs isn't? I'm explicitly asking for them following and visiting their page.

      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 00:43:47 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 00:52:24 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski
      • ajlanes

      @zimowski @ajlanes It is done automatically. Follow the account. The posts will show up in your feed, entirely automatically.

      But if you want to comment on some random thing, then you need a URL for it, just like you do on any other site in existence.

      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 00:52:24 JST permalink
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 00:52:25 JST zimowski zimowski
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      • ajlanes

      @goatsarah @ajlanes it's not automatically then. I was told by Alexandra Lanes it's being done automatically.

      And really... reading posts on a separate website and then fetch them manually one by one here.... it's so ridiculous. It's not 1989

      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 00:52:25 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 00:54:14 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski
      • ajlanes
      @ajlanes @zimowski I'm thinking you are being deliberately obtuse at this point. Surely nobody is this stupid.
      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 00:54:14 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 01:03:44 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski
      • ajlanes

      @zimowski @ajlanes That's because someone on your site follows me, so my posts federate there.

      If nobody follows an account on your site, it won't get the posts until someone does.

      This has been explained so many times, and you keep saying the same thing.

      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 01:03:44 JST permalink
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 01:03:45 JST zimowski zimowski
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      • ajlanes

      @goatsarah @ajlanes I follow the account. The posts aren't showing up because old posts are random thing nobody wants (as you said)

      To see them I should visit their site. And then I should comment them using the link - that's also what you've said.

      I didn't do it with your profile. I just clicked on your name, saw your posts and commented

      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 01:03:45 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 01:51:52 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski
      • ajlanes

      @zimowski @ajlanes Your server isn't polling for posts. The remote server sends them. It does this to all followers when someone makes the post.

      What it's not going to do is go back and send every post that an account has made when you follow, because that would be spam.

      Therefore, if you wish to comment on an old post, simply enter its URL in the search box. Your server will then go and get it, and you can reply or repost as you see fit.

      This has been explained so very many times now that I'm starting to think what you're doing here is some sort of weird performance art.

      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 01:51:52 JST permalink
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 01:51:53 JST zimowski zimowski
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      • ajlanes

      @goatsarah @ajlanes because you keep saying th same thing. I've followed it. I am someone. Why is it so hard to fetch older posts for me? It's the same database query like fetching new ones.

      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 01:51:53 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 01:52:59 JST goatsarah goatsarah
      in reply to
      • zimowski
      • ajlanes
      @zimowski @ajlanes This thing that's controlling what you see, is it in the room with us now?
      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 01:52:59 JST permalink
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 01:53:00 JST zimowski zimowski
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      • ajlanes

      @goatsarah @ajlanes don't you see how it's controlling what I see? That it's limiting the search results for me? That I don't see so many good people with interesting content because someone hasn't followed them? It's stupid. And it makes fediverse statement that it's up to user to decide what they see a lie. Big fat lie of twitter wannabes who didn't find their identity so they trying to make it up lying to their users

      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 01:53:00 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 03:53:05 JST goatsarah goatsarah
      in reply to
      • zimowski
      • ajlanes

      @zimowski @ajlanes The accounts you follow are sent to you.

      There are only so many different ways of saying this.

      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 03:53:05 JST permalink
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 03:53:07 JST zimowski zimowski
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      • ajlanes

      @goatsarah @ajlanes that's exactly what i said before. You have to visit their website, find the post you want to react to, then go back to Mastodon and then fetch it manually. It's a very strange concept

      And why is it spam? It's basically SELECT * FROM posts WHERE user_id = %ussr_id%

      So you are saying I'm not requesting anything, other server decides where to send out posts.... Interesting concept that seems very hard to use

      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 03:53:07 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 03:55:36 JST goatsarah goatsarah
      in reply to
      • zimowski
      • ajlanes
      @zimowski @ajlanes complain to my server admin if you want.
      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 03:55:36 JST permalink
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 03:55:37 JST zimowski zimowski
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      • ajlanes

      @goatsarah @ajlanes such basic sarcasm, you don't even hide the fact you are trolling. Is it allowed on your server? It's not on mine... People like you should be on twitter or facebook amongst the similar ones

      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 03:55:37 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 06:08:10 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • Kacey
      @kacey Yeah. Friendica is very much my second go at Fedi too, and it works out much better for me. It's a seriously underrated bit of software, and it's always nice to see the logo pop up next to comments 😊
      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 06:08:10 JST permalink
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      Kacey (kacey@social.weyr.org.uk)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 06:08:12 JST Kacey Kacey
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      @goatsarah I tried Mastodon a few years ago and hated it, probably because I don’t like the format of the bird site either.

      However, I was persuaded to join a trial/testing Friendica instance and found the format much better for me.

      One of the beauties of the Fediverse is the fact that instances of different types all interact with each other.

      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 06:08:12 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 17:09:33 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski
      @zimowski It’s a kbin account. Kbin, as new software, is known to be having problems with federation.
      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 17:09:33 JST permalink
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 17:09:34 JST zimowski zimowski
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      @goatsarah no. Here is account i was recommended. I follow it but I don't see posts, unless I click the link and leave mastodon -> i see their website then

      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 17:09:34 JST permalink

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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 17:45:39 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski

      @zimowski There are problems with that one specific server.

      Out of over twenty thousand.

      If you want content in your timeline, follow people.

      If you want to rant and complain, piss off back to Twitter.

      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 17:45:39 JST permalink
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 17:45:40 JST zimowski zimowski
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      @goatsarah turns out you could say there are problems with federation and save me from many hours of your bullshit like 'follow more people'.

      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 17:45:40 JST permalink
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      goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 18:17:00 JST goatsarah goatsarah
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      • zimowski
      @zimowski You’re on my wall 🤷🏻♀️
      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 18:17:00 JST permalink
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      zimowski@mastodon.world's status on Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 18:17:01 JST zimowski zimowski
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      @goatsarah will you ever shut up?

      In conversation Sunday, 16-Jul-2023 18:17:01 JST permalink

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