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   rê (rererere@wandering.shop)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 18:50:47 JST rê

   saw this screenshot from twitter on tumblr earlier this morning. this is a terrifying mentality. this kind of thinking can't be as prevalent as the echo chambers makes them seem, right?

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     Charlie Stross (cstross@wandering.shop)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 18:50:41 JST Charlie Stross

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     @rererere Aaah, the neopuritans strike again!

     (Or maybe they're a Mormon and drinking a glass of wine is as out there to them as going on a six day blinder and waking up in a bathtub full of ice cubes with no memories, no left kidney, and BITE ME tattooed on your forehead.)

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     Another Angry Woman (stavvers@masto.ai)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 18:50:41 JST Another Angry Woman

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     @cstross @rererere I think at least part of the issue is a US thing - they are culturally *weird* about drinking, even the ones who aren't otherwise especially puritan.

     I remember fan discourse years ago about how Gillian Anderson's character in The Fall must be an alcoholic because she drank *two* glasses of wine

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     Another Angry Woman (stavvers@masto.ai)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 18:53:34 JST Another Angry Woman

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     @cstross @rererere In NYC, me and my gf stopped for one (1) beer, sitting on a table outside and the servers looked at us like we'd grown extra limbs for not wanting to sit at the noisy bar and only drinking one beer before going off to enjoy our day.

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     Charlie Stross (cstross@wandering.shop)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 18:53:35 JST Charlie Stross

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     @stavvers @rererere It's also really weird how American bars always have giant-ass TV screens showing sports (with the volume turned up, but different channels on each) OR dance-floor levels of loud music, or sometimes both. There's no concept of quiet social drinking, apart from that one weird Trappist monk themed bar on Manhattan.

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     Charlie Stross (cstross@wandering.shop)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 18:53:36 JST Charlie Stross

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     @stavvers @rererere I blame Prohibition.

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     Another Angry Woman (stavvers@masto.ai)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 18:53:36 JST Another Angry Woman

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     @cstross @rererere oh hard same, I don't think they realise just how weird it is to the rest of the world that they culturally only do "drink to get real fucked up" or not at all.

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     panoptikontraband (panoptikontraband@camp.smolnet.org)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 18:54:03 JST panoptikontraband

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     @stavvers
     I mean swedes are pretty good at only drinking to get real fucked up as well
     @cstross @rererere

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 18:56:01 JST clacke

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     @panoptikontraband I was gonna say, that's not Americans, that's Vodka Belt people (Sweden, Finland, Russia, nearby places).

     I see a lot of people in American media having one (1) whiskey.

     @cstross @stavvers @rererere

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     Albert Semple, Poet (albert@mastodon.scot)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 18:57:04 JST Albert Semple, Poet

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     @cstross @rererere

     I think there's something generational going on there too. Being a non drinking young person is much more common now - 26% (source - https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/jul/24/gen-z-for-zero-tolerance-why-british-youth-are-turning-off-booze)

     So maybe the reluctance to make that a defining character trait is to make the characters relatable to the maximum number of readers.

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     Marc Godin (quietmarc@kolektiva.social)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 19:35:31 JST Marc Godin

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     @cstross @stavvers @rererere Americans are the ones who are weird about gun ownership.

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     Charlie Stross (cstross@wandering.shop)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 19:35:32 JST Charlie Stross

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     @stavvers @rererere I think Americans are weird about Alcohol the way Brits are weird about gun ownership. (Although there's a much stronger case to ban guns than booze.)

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     ajlanes (ajlanes@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 20:21:04 JST ajlanes

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     @stavvers @cstross @afewbugs @rererere And apparently you get pulled over by the cops if you try to walk.
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     Jules (afewbugs@social.coop)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 20:21:09 JST Jules

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     @stavvers @cstross @rererere and then apparently I've been reliably informed they all drive home because there's no public transport