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   goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 01:52:44 JST goatsarah

   Dear Messers Bosch, Neff, and others.

   You know that strip between the oven door and the oven itself, where detritus collects?

   You know how you keep making it out of aluminium?

   You know how caustic soda corrodes aluminium?

   You know what oven cleaner is made of?

   You stupid or something?

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     gz (godzero@sfba.social)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 08:12:25 JST gz

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     So many appliances and other household tools are appallingly designed. More likely, they're not actually designed, just thrown together by an engineer and the bean counters.

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     goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 16:03:27 JST goatsarah

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     @chiffchaff @josephholsten I think we can cut it some slack when pretend elements like francium
     and astatine get slots.
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     kæt (chiffchaff@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 16:03:28 JST kæt

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     @josephholsten @goatsarah A cerium-based one? How exciting! Cerium is one of those slacker elements when it comes to applications and people always say "self-cleaning ovens" as if that's sufficient justification to occupy a slot in the periodic table. I've known a few folk with self-cleaning ovens and they've never been a cerium catalytic one.

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     : j@fabrica:~/src; :t_blink: (josephholsten@mstdn.social)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 16:03:29 JST : j@fabrica:~/src; :t_blink:

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     @goatsarah I can’t use oven cleaner in my 1980s era miele. Supposedly the surface is catalytic. All I know is it works great at keeping the junk off.
     Sadly, I can’t get new door gaskets, so I’ve got may a couple more years until I need to learn how to vulcanize rubber or something to make new ones

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     goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 17:15:04 JST goatsarah

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     @chiffchaff @josephholsten Isn’t the issue with the island of stability that we have almost certainly passed it, but can’t create the right isotopes because neutrons?
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     kæt (chiffchaff@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 17:15:05 JST kæt

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     @goatsarah @josephholsten The periodic table is at a wonderful point at the moment when period seven is finished. So it looks lovely.

     I definitely think the pope of chemistry needs to say to the elements "okay, we're done" the way kids are dispersed at the end of a party when everyone's getting tired and silly.

     (A genuine island of stability would be amazing, and I'd say "game on" if anything happened to have a half-life of >1s, say).

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     kæt (chiffchaff@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 17:22:23 JST kæt

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     @goatsarah @josephholsten Yes, as I understand it that's right. No way yet of getting enough neutrons in there. If someone manages that, I'll definitely take a grainy photo of that element in a suit and tie and make it Periodic Table employee of the month. At the moment I just feel bad like the way your heart sometimes sinks when a band says "here's some new material" and I know I *should* be enthusiastic.

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     goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 19:25:43 JST goatsarah

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     @ajlanes @josephholsten @chiffchaff It may be. The issue is that we can't make transplutonic elements with sensible numbers of neutrons, so can't verify experimentally.
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     Alexandra Lanes (ajlanes@mastodon.online)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jul-2023 19:25:44 JST Alexandra Lanes

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     @chiffchaff @goatsarah @josephholsten Wasn’t oganesson supposed to be in the island of stability?