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   48kRAM (48kram@oldbytes.space)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jul-2023 23:00:24 JST 48kRAM

   Finally have 3 displays set up for working from home. I have these vague memories, as if from some previous life, of using a computer productively with only a single display. How... how did we ever do that?

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     Polychrome :blabcat: (polychrome@poly.cybre.city)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jul-2023 23:00:12 JST Polychrome :blabcat:

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     • MetalSnake
     @48kRAM @metalsnake I can't even get through most Linux distro setup with 800x600 on a VM because the GUI window for the setup program can't fit on the display area.
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     48kRAM (48kram@oldbytes.space)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jul-2023 23:00:13 JST 48kRAM

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     @metalsnake yeah something has REALLY gone off the rails WRT interface and UI design. Software used to be usable at 800x600 or less

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     MetalSnake (metalsnake@social.anoxinon.de)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jul-2023 23:00:22 JST MetalSnake

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     @48kRAM back then UI design was much better. Nowadays they call the current "design" #minimalist and clean and flat, but it needs much more space.
     Just look at a modern messenger versus ICQ, AdiumX etc. Back then the messenger windows needed only a tiny part of a 800x600 screen, but now a large part of a 4k screen.

     #flatdesign sucks!

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     48kRAM (48kram@oldbytes.space)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jul-2023 00:37:43 JST 48kRAM

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     Here is Windows 9x and Word 9x at 800x600 resolution. Spacious. Comfy. Super Usable.

     Here is a modern Word replaced (TextMaker from Softmaker) in an 800x600 window. Barely usable. Editing space is eaten up by TONs of GUI elements. text is hard to read. SMH

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     fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jul-2023 02:17:20 JST fu

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     @48kRAM we probably did less semitasking
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     fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jul-2023 03:52:27 JST fu

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     • Lunar 🛸 ♾
     @lunarloony @48kRAM m more reason to use #OpenOffice. I got more of my family to switch to Free Software when Microsoft Introduced the Ribbon. Unfortunately #LibreOffice has adopted it, under the premises of making adoption easier by non-free software users, but #openOffice is still perfect 😉
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     Lunar 🛸 ♾ (lunarloony@dosgame.club)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jul-2023 03:52:28 JST Lunar 🛸 ♾

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     @48kRAM The closest thing I've found, save for reverting to Office 2003, is this: https://www.ubit.ch/software/ubitmenu-languages/
     It's a little janky, but it's something!

     Unfortunately, the "classic" menu is long gone from Office itself.

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     48kRAM (48kram@oldbytes.space)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jul-2023 03:52:30 JST 48kRAM

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     • Lunar 🛸 ♾

     @lunarloony Yeah I feel like the ribbon paradigm is largely to blame for this issue. Unfortunately it's an all-or-nothing setting. You either see Everything or Nothing (if you collapse the ribbon). I remember spending time customizing my toolbars in Win 9x versions of Office and that was super powerful. I feel like that choice has been taken away from us largely. (Though I'll bet a terrible version of it still exists if I looked hard enough)

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     Lunar 🛸 ♾ (lunarloony@dosgame.club)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jul-2023 03:52:31 JST Lunar 🛸 ♾

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     @48kRAM And here is Word 2019, which I daresay is even worse than TextMaker. Look at the big gap on the ribbon where you could put lots of nice buttons!

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     fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jul-2023 03:52:38 JST fu

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     If you like Win95, I hope you have your Mastodon profile set to #Masto95
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jul-2023 03:52:40 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @48kRAM Reminds me of noticing the massive difference in a gitlab thread where one shared a win95 screenshot where settings would take about 1/4th of a 800×600 display, while Firefox proxy settings without much more options would be bigger than 800×600. (didn't try to resize the window or display though)
     Windows 95 proxy settings.png
     Firefox proxy settings (96 DPI).png
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     fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jul-2023 07:11:58 JST fu

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     • Lunar 🛸 ♾
     @lunarloony @48kRAM OpenOffice is still maintained they had a new official release earlier this year. Personally I prefer to use products that have less churn.
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     Lunar 🛸 ♾ (lunarloony@dosgame.club)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jul-2023 07:12:00 JST Lunar 🛸 ♾

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     • fu

     @fu @48kRAM LibreOffice uses the old-school menu by default, but it does include an option for a ribbon-style interface too! Also, it's still maintained.