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   cream queen (creamqueen@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:20:42 JST cream queen

   • cool_boy_mew
   @coolboymew seriously are there any benefits to webp? Why change to something else when jpg, png, and gif have worked for years
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     cream queen (creamqueen@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:20:41 JST cream queen

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     • cool_boy_mew
     @coolboymew my computer doesn't even support webp files and the only way to view them is by using Microsoft edge
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:20:41 JST 翠星石

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     @creamqueen >why change to something else when jpg, png, and gif have worked for years
     jpeg's just suck really and all gifs should be burned: https://burnallgifs.org/archives/
     
     PNG's Not Gif is useful for most kinds of images other that cases when you want a small sized image and you don't care if it's lossy, webp is what you want.
     
     As free software libraries exist for viewing webp and it's supported in any decent browser, there's no reason for me to reflect that format.
     
     >my computer doesn't even support webp files
     Have you considered not running proprietary malware and escaping to freedom?: https://www.gnu.org/
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     cream queen (creamqueen@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:39:23 JST cream queen

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     • 翠星石
     @Suiseiseki no because I play video games and most of the games I play don't support Linux. I also enjoy having my computer work every time I turn it on
     Fediverse Contractor likes this.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:45:45 JST 翠星石

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     @creamqueen >no because I play video games
     Correction: You surrender your freedom to proprietary malware cleverly disguised as games.
     
     I enjoy playing free software games sometimes.
     
     >most of the games I play don't support Linux.
     Why would a kernel have anything to do with the running of games?
     
     Unfortunately, most of the proprietary malware games just work fine on WINE+DVXK+esync (also known as Proton), unless the game uses digital handcuffs (often implemented via kernel rootkit) and in that case the game obviously won't run unless the handcuffs are broken.
     
     >I also enjoy having my computer work every time I turn it on
     Yeaaaaaah, I have never had that experience when it comes to proprietary malware - it always finds a way to break itself for no discernible reason.
     
     My computer running GNU works every time I turn it on, although I sometimes like to do some really deranged patches that happen to break things - but debugging and fixing the problem is too hard, as I actually get meaningful error logs.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:45:55 JST 翠星石

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     @creamqueen >no because I play video games
     Correction: You surrender your freedom to proprietary malware cleverly disguised as games.
     
     I enjoy playing free software games sometimes.
     
     >most of the games I play don't support Linux.
     Why would a kernel have anything to do with the running of games?
     
     Unfortunately, most of the proprietary malware games just work fine on WINE+DVXK+esync (also known as Proton), unless the game uses digital handcuffs (often implemented via kernel rootkit) and in that case the game obviously won't run unless the handcuffs are broken.
     
     >I also enjoy having my computer work every time I turn it on
     Yeaaaaaah, I have never had that experience when it comes to proprietary malware - it always finds a way to break itself for no discernible reason.
     
     My computer running GNU works every time I turn it on, although I sometimes like to do some really deranged patches that happen to break things - but debugging and fixing the problem isn't ever too difficult, as I actually get meaningful error logs.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:51:28 JST 翠星石

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     • Dushman
     @dushman If you want to do animations, I recommend apng - which compresses quite well for *animations*.
     
     If you want looping videos, I recommend a video format (many crappy video players don't support looping for some reason), although webp does have a video mode and most video players that implement webp videos support looping.
     
     Gif is a terrible video and image format that doesn't even support a decent number of colours at per image - but of course everyone just implemented a nasty colour hack that makes the video extra grainy instead of using a decent video format instead.
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     Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:51:29 JST Dushman

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     • cool_boy_mew
     • meso
     • re9177
     • :meiling-dance: Nishi :NetBSD: :asbestoscafeicon:

     @re9177@the.asbestos.cafe @meso@the.asbestos.cafe @Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe @coolboymew@shitposter.club @creamqueen@clubcyberia.co
     Also supports animations while wasting like 4x less space than gifs for that

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     Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:51:30 JST Dushman

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     • meso
     • re9177
     • :meiling-dance: Nishi :NetBSD: :asbestoscafeicon:

     @re9177@the.asbestos.cafe @meso@the.asbestos.cafe @Nishi@the.asbestos.cafe @coolboymew@shitposter.club @creamqueen@clubcyberia.co
     
     Webp is good actually, it has very efficient compression.

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     re9177 (re9177@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:51:31 JST re9177

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     • meso
     • :meiling-dance: Nishi :NetBSD: :asbestoscafeicon:
     @meso @Nishi @coolboymew @creamqueen
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     meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:51:32 JST meso

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     • cool_boy_mew
     • :meiling-dance: Nishi :NetBSD: :asbestoscafeicon:
     @Nishi @creamqueen @coolboymew :big_trans:
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     cream queen (creamqueen@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:51:33 JST cream queen

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     • cool_boy_mew
     @coolboymew who actually cares about file size that much for images that don't even take a lot of space, it's different when the image is like 23mb but that's never the case
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     :meiling-dance: Nishi :NetBSD: :asbestoscafeicon: (nishi@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:51:33 JST :meiling-dance: Nishi :NetBSD: :asbestoscafeicon:

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     • cool_boy_mew
     @creamqueen @coolboymew says the person who tried to add trans flag w/ isis logo which was like 83mb
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     cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 07-Jul-2023 23:51:34 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @creamqueen according to the /g/ thread, png quality with jpg file size
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jul-2023 00:04:37 JST 翠星石

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     • pomstan
     • smug
     @smug @pomstan Sisvel claims to hold patents on everything, but they won't tell you which patents specifically.
     
     They get a lot of money conning companies to pay royalties for patents that probably don't even have.
     
     >Hybrid block-based coding >Partitioning >Prediction >Filtering >Entropy coding
     Ah yes, mathematical techniques used for efficient video compression techniques for decades now, but of course Sisvel claims they have patents on all that sort of math.
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     smug@smuganimeavatar.xyz's status on Saturday, 08-Jul-2023 00:04:38 JST smug

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     • pomstan
     interesting
     https://www.sisvel.com/blog/audio-video-coding-decoding/av1-is-a-copy-cat-codec
     
     possibly patent troll
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     pomstan (pomstan@xn--p1abe3d.xn--80asehdb)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jul-2023 00:04:39 JST pomstan

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     • cool_boy_mew
     • smug

     @smug @creamqueen @coolboymew

     No loicense or any of that shit.

     sisvel claims to own some patents on av1

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     smug@smuganimeavatar.xyz's status on Saturday, 08-Jul-2023 00:04:40 JST smug

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     • cool_boy_mew
     1) server host has to pay less for the bandwidth and storage, which are the biggest costs for them, end user has to download less, making it take less time and using less data, which is still relevant for mobile users, but some desktop users as well (rip). a 90% difference is massive (see https://squoosh.app/)
     3) the end user doesn't notice the difference if they are just scrolling past an image or something
     4) old formats are inefficient due to older tech.
     5) webm (webp is based on that) vs h264 was a massive fight with licenses and different tech companies picked their side a decade ago. There is a reason apple can't play webms (they put their focus on h264), why you need to buy a hevc codec for 89 cents in the MS store and why you can't display webps on windows images. Because fuck you.
     6) AVIF (and AV1) is the new hot kid on the block all the tech companies decided was _the_ new thing. No loicense or any of that shit. Guess what can be displayed in safari AND windows image viewer without a problem, despite being rather new? The sad side of this that anything that isn't AVIF is getting shit on, like JPEGXL, which seems a hype af tech which would allow another massive savings, is backwards compatible to jpg and still is fast (this is a problem WEBP and AVIF have, they are SLOOOW to encode, webp is still tolerable though. Using AV1 HW might change that but that's still rather new)