Lostwingman
Adam does great unintentional demonstrations of why libertarianism as a frame is both worthless and how we got here.
"If you have a kid who wants to transition and you're there every step of the way, go for it."
I have no other word for that than repulsive. That's on some spectrum of negligent or abusive parenting but that's OK in a libertarian framework.
Consent ethics, not even once. Enjoy being the handmaiden of man-made horrors beyond comprehension.
Sir² Morgan
@Lostwingman I don't see that as being "libertarian" at all, it sounds more like liberalism. libertarianism is about the govt and what rules they can enforce upon you, especially as it pertains to the rules you can enforce within your own home. certainly one libertarian may go that route, and another libertarian would say that's their right and the govt can't tell them otherwise, but the decision about that particular issue has nothing to do with being a libertarian
Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺
@mh I don't see how what @Lostwingman said is incompatible. It is certainly libertarian to say the government should not have to power to prevent you from transitioning your children.
Sir² Morgan
@ned @Lostwingman while I don't particularly care for transitioning children, they shouldn't. if that's the obtuse angle we're looking at it from, then its pretty much compatible with any political ideology besides authoritarian
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Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺
@book @Lostwingman @mh and what do we do when the government promotes it instead?
Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺
@mh @Lostwingman well sign me up for a brown shirt and jackboots then.
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Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺
@book @Lostwingman @mh the correct answer is woodchipper.
Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺
@book @Lostwingman @mh oh well, extinction it is I guess.
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Sir² Morgan
@gnu2 nobody said anything is the opposite of anything. read gooder
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Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺
@gnu2 your logic is retarded. The whole point of the status of "child" is that the parents have a responsibility to make certain decisions on behalf of that child. Comparing a parent forcing a child to transition against their will, vs a child doing so willingly is irrelevant. Both are child abuse IMO.
Sir² Morgan
@gnu2 I wouldn't claim that it is the opposite, no. They are certainly largely opposed, but I think it's an oversimplification to say any one political ideology is the direct opposite of another. if I did have to pick one, I'd probably say true democracy is the opposite of authoritarianism. the opposite of libertarianism would probably be communism or socialism, I guess? like I said I think its hard to simplify it to such a comparison
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