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   :bun: Stellar (not lewd) (stellar@mk.absturztau.be)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 23:38:28 JST :bun: Stellar (not lewd)

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   @shibao@misskey.bubbletea.dev its bad for the environnement

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     eerie (eerie@mooskirsch.xyz)'s status on Friday, 16-Jun-2023 23:58:50 JST eerie

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     @Stellar @shibao Wasn't the problem with gas stoves that it's unhealthy for people? Aren't the biproducts caused by the flame in a closed environment the problem for peoples heath?
     
     Was I misinformed? It seemed sensible if that's the reason. If the environment is the reason then that's another psyop to divert our attention from environmental problems caused by big business
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     @Stellar @shibao you know what's really bad for the environment? Politicians.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 00:12:26 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     Standing out in the sun is also “unhealthy” then lol. You’d think chefs and cooks that spend hours around gas stoves would be dropping like flies.
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     eerie (eerie@mooskirsch.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 00:23:50 JST eerie

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     @bot @shibao @Stellar from what i've seen it's more of a long term issue. A lead type situation.
     If that is the point then I see the point as it is unwilling danger with no knowledge of that fact. It's not like they try to ban things people know for a fact it's unhealthy and don't care. (Cigarettes, alcohol)
     Same reason why the usage of lead was restricted, it would make sense despite being annoying.
     
     If it is about the climate then lol lmao.
     
     Climate is often used as an excuse like "do it for the children" or "the hecking terrorists". Just a way to control the populace.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 00:32:14 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     It’s definitely a bs “environment” thing using health as a justification, which the media was happy to parrot and shriek about in unison to manipulate the public.
     
     My point is that sun exposure is also a long term cumulative health concern, but this is so petty and stupid that it’s obviously not about public health.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 00:34:37 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     Btw New York State did ban gas stoves in new construction.
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     eerie (eerie@mooskirsch.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 00:56:55 JST eerie

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     @bot @shibao @Stellar man the only good thing americans got for themselves really are just the lax gun laws.
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     Terry Hendrix II 🏹 (thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 01:11:55 JST Terry Hendrix II 🏹

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     You can’t control gas like electricity. You seen the new cars in China? You have to scan a QR code with your phone to turn it on after a social credit score check. Someone has to come to your house to shutoff LNG or if you have a tank you can even black market.

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     Terry Hendrix II 🏹 (thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 01:11:58 JST Terry Hendrix II 🏹

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     Same reason they’re banning wood stoves. You could grow your own fuel.

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     Terry Hendrix II 🏹 (thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 01:13:06 JST Terry Hendrix II 🏹

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     Ah, I see… “food comes from the grocery store” is a serious condition if left untreated. I should stop talking to zoomers.

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     Terry Hendrix II 🏹 (thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 01:13:07 JST Terry Hendrix II 🏹

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     I see you either don’t own a house on LNG or just don’t understand logistics and how hook ups and tanks work. For these systems to work well you need it to be controlled by relays.

     It’s not an odd take it’s the non-bullshit reason. You have pols in the UK telling people to disable their AIrCon. It’s about living in the pods and lowering the standard of living. Also if you didn’t know this affects particular people more than others as some cuisines are hard to cook on electricity. There is no reason to nationally ban an entire category of fuel.

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     eerie (eerie@mooskirsch.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 01:13:07 JST eerie

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     @thendrix @shibao @Stellar No I don't own a house. How should I in this economy where governments all over the world try to prevent people from buying houses at all costs.
     
     I am not educated on how the trading of gas works and by all rights it seems to make sense to me that it would be very easy to control by the government compared to wood.
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     eerie (eerie@mooskirsch.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 01:13:08 JST eerie

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     @thendrix @shibao @Stellar odd take tbh. How can you not control gas. Wood of course, any citizen can get wood but how can any citizen find easy access to gas.
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     eerie (eerie@mooskirsch.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 01:19:13 JST eerie

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     @thendrix @shibao @Stellar ?????
     Why so insulting?
     
     I was not aware gas is an easy resource to access and hard to restrict and I am glad I learned something new.
     
     Wood, food, concrete, water, those are materials the average joe (in this case, I) would be aware are easy to access and near unrestrictable as they can be made by independent persons.
     
     I do not have personal experience with gas. Thank you for the information. There is no reason to be insulting about it but I thank you regardless.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 01:20:11 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     Boomers tend to get grumpy like this sometimes. Anyway, I think gas would be super easy to restrict if they really wanted to.
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     Terry Hendrix II 🏹 (thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 01:21:47 JST Terry Hendrix II 🏹

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     Well, that’s why they don’t teach children anything so they can be. We have a bubble generation that’s going to doom this nation and it’s intentional. Us older folks saw this coming and spoke out did community work and even gave money, but best we could do is move to another state in the end. :shrugz:

     We tried… but numbers – and political machines – win those games. Hope most of you guys make it and figure it out on your own. Cities are going to fall first. :shrugz:

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     eerie (eerie@mooskirsch.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 01:30:43 JST eerie

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     @thendrix @Stellar @shibao Besides that I do not in any way agree with the banning of gas stoves. I am on your side. Just because I was unsure about the validity of something you said it doesn't mean I am against what you've said. Stop attacking your own.
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     Terry Hendrix II 🏹 (thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 02:21:14 JST Terry Hendrix II 🏹

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     You see that steel frame “craftsman for modern audiences” I tagged for you? You could take that idea, but do a timber frame or steel frame of your own with some friends.

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     whiteline (whiteline@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 17-Jun-2023 02:41:33 JST whiteline

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     gentrifying appalachia, one shack at a time