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   Jason Evangelho (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Jun-2023 16:10:31 JST Jason Evangelho

   And here's why the HP Dev One (it was a #Linux laptop that shipped with Pop OS ootb) with its 16GB of RAM just wasn't cutting it for me.

   And I'm not even a developer. I'm just over here doing marketing and community management stuff!

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     Jason Evangelho (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Jun-2023 16:19:14 JST Jason Evangelho

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     • Jalil

     @teivel I'm running about 30 browser tabs (Firefox), Thunderbird (with 4 accounts), ProtonMail Bridge, Element, Slack, Joplin...and that's about it.

     Strangely, KDE's System Monitor doesn't come close to accounting for all this RAM usage at the moment...

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     Jalil (teivel@mas.to)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Jun-2023 16:19:15 JST Jalil

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     @killyourfm Wow, whenever I get close to that usage (my system only has 24GiB of RAM), it's because I wrote a memory leak (or allocated too much memory).

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     Jalil (teivel@mas.to)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Jun-2023 16:19:15 JST Jalil

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     @killyourfm What does marketing and community management entail that uses so much RAM? A bunch of browser tabs? Electron applications?

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     Jason Evangelho (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Jun-2023 16:19:41 JST Jason Evangelho

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     • Normie/Jessica🚩< - -:buffcat:

     @normjess My wife has a company laptop (Windows!) with only 8GB and I don't understand how she even does her job.

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     Normie/Jessica🚩< - -:buffcat: (normjess@tech.lgbt)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Jun-2023 16:19:42 JST Normie/Jessica🚩< - -:buffcat:

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     @killyourfm
     the RAM doubling for regular consumers begins again

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     Jason Evangelho (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Jun-2023 16:25:42 JST Jason Evangelho

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     UPDATE:
     Ummmm WHAT?

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     Jason Evangelho (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Jun-2023 17:24:18 JST Jason Evangelho

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     • Tuncay

     @thingsiplay @kde Thank you for the knowledge, kind stranger! Maybe my morning won't end in frustration and laptop-chucking!

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     Tuncay (thingsiplay@mstdn.games)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Jun-2023 17:24:19 JST Tuncay

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     @killyourfm @kde Yes the baloo is a service in KDE and its known to be not working correctly. A few years back when I researched, no one was working on this program. It's the file indexer for the KDE search functionalities. When I was using KDE, I ended up disabling and removing baloo. Not only takes it so much memory, it also used one of my 8 threads of 4 real cores to be almost always 100% working.

     Just websearch for something like "baloo ram memoryleak too much" and such. It's common problem

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     Jason Evangelho (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Jun-2023 17:25:11 JST Jason Evangelho

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     • pak0st

     @pak0st @kde It's so strange, I've never seen this specific behavior before, but I've used various implementations of KDE for 3 years.

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     pak0st (pak0st@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Jun-2023 17:25:12 JST pak0st

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     @killyourfm @kde favourite quirk - Baloo can grind a system to a halt if you forget to mark a directory to be ignored from indexing (especially if that dir is filled with lots of small files)

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     Jason Evangelho (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Jun-2023 17:28:00 JST Jason Evangelho

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     • lecroix74

     @lecroix74 @kde But I love my Plasma!

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     lecroix74 (lecroix74@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Jun-2023 17:28:01 JST lecroix74

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     @killyourfm @kde time to move away from KDE,maybe? :gnome:

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     Jason Evangelho (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Jun-2023 17:43:11 JST Jason Evangelho

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     • Jalil

     @teivel We solved it deeper in the thread. Apparently it's KDE's indexing service, which can be safely disabled or even removed. But wow, what a RAM hog...

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     Jalil (teivel@mas.to)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Jun-2023 17:43:12 JST Jalil

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     @killyourfm that doesn't sound right, afaik that shouldn't use that much RAM...

     Have you tried things like Franz and Ferdium, they are embedded chromium Browsers for things like slack, WhatsApp and discord; electron Apps with a web equivalent, gets you most of 5h3 way to a desktop app without needing multiple instances of electron, and as a bonus, they don't share cookies/information afaik.

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     Jason Evangelho (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Jun-2023 17:43:50 JST Jason Evangelho

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     • GeekAnnoyed

     @gnuGeek @kde Now that I know it can safely be disabled or even removed, I'm feeling better about things. But wow, that's a rather nasty bug.

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     GeekAnnoyed (gnugeek@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Jun-2023 17:43:51 JST GeekAnnoyed

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     @killyourfm @kde
     I've had this too for the first few days my PC was sluggish and almost unusable, and it would crash on a certain folder of photos every time without fail

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     Jason Evangelho (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Jun-2023 17:57:48 JST Jason Evangelho

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     • Bald Polnareff Art

     @baldpolnareffart @kde Fortunately it can be pretty easily disabled or just removed. Which is a relief!

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     Bald Polnareff Art (baldpolnareffart@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Jun-2023 17:57:49 JST Bald Polnareff Art

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     @killyourfm @kde You just unlocked in my memory the reason I stopped using plasma a few years ago, this service was eating ram like crazy

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     Jason Evangelho (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Jun-2023 17:59:51 JST Jason Evangelho

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     • Bald Polnareff Art

     @baldpolnareffart @kde Gnome IS fantastic, just not as easily customizable. Pretty much the only reason I don't use it.

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     Bald Polnareff Art (baldpolnareffart@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Jun-2023 17:59:52 JST Bald Polnareff Art

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     @killyourfm @kde I might just switch to KDE if Plasma 6 meets all my expectations. For now I don't feel pressured to leave GNOME, it just works fine

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     Jason Evangelho (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Jun-2023 19:29:56 JST Jason Evangelho

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     • Professor Code

     @ProfessorCode It's actually Nobara KDE, so very very close.

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     Professor Code (professorcode@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Jun-2023 19:29:57 JST Professor Code

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     @killyourfm Is that Fedora KDE? 🤔 :fedora:

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     Jason Evangelho (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Jun-2023 20:13:09 JST Jason Evangelho

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     • івась тарасик

     @tivasyk I understand the concept, but I reject the result.

     You need SOME memory so you system doesn't grind to a halt. In this case, it was the KDE indexer using nearly 20GB of RAM, which is completely unexpected and unnaceptable, you know?

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     івась тарасик (tivasyk@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Jun-2023 20:13:11 JST івась тарасик

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     @killyourfm free memory is wasted memory. please, read up on how #linux manages memory? hint: if you had 128 gb, you'd also had it almost completely used if your uptime is in days, — that's normal and expected.