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   chjara (chjara@snowdin.town)'s status on Sunday, 28-May-2023 15:58:29 JST chjara
   the AGPL is such a bad license that the only reason to use it is that some companies are deathly allergic to it
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-May-2023 15:58:27 JST 翠星石

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     @chjara There are three versions of the AGPL, but I'm assuming you mean the AGPLv3: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.html
     
     In my extensive reading of many licenses including the AGPLv3, it's an excellent license and is the GPLv3 except with extra clauses applying when the software is being used to perform another users computing and modifications have been made.
     
     People don't understand licenses because they don't actually read them - instead they go and read the comments of other people who haven't read such licenses either.
     
     
     Sure, companies that wish to cloud your mind and have you access free software in a method that is equivalent of a proprietary program with a universal back door are deathly allergic to the AGPLv3, but as the license is otherwise equivalent to the GPLv3, all the reasons to use the GPLv3 apply to the AGPLv3 as well.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-May-2023 16:27:49 JST 翠星石

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     • SuperDicq
     @SuperDicq >I don't think all license issues were solved.
     Due to how twisted the absolute mess of restrictive laws are, it's impossible to write a license free of all issues.
     
     >There's plenty of things many licenses can improve on.
     Yes, most licenses are terribly, terribly written.
     
     The only good licenses I've read are from the GNU family of licenses graced by rms's hands.
     
     The latest versions are free of all known avoidable issues, although they sadly contain problems that are impossible to avoid.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Sunday, 28-May-2023 16:27:50 JST SuperDicq

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     • MattZ

     @colinsmatt11@gleasonator.com @chjara@snowdin.town I don't think all license issues were solved. There's plenty of things many licenses can improve on.

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     MattZ (colinsmatt11@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-May-2023 16:27:51 JST MattZ

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     • SuperDicq
     • MattZ
     @SuperDicq @chjara All license issues were solved a decade ago, I don't understand why people still argue about it.
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     MattZ (colinsmatt11@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-May-2023 16:27:52 JST MattZ

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     • SuperDicq
     @SuperDicq @chjara Those are usually the biggest issues with free software projects.
     
     Users gets software at no cost and forget about it and when they have issues it's useless drama, every single time.
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     MattZ (colinsmatt11@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-May-2023 16:27:53 JST MattZ

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     • SuperDicq
     @SuperDicq @chjara Project management, Transparency and Public Relations.
     
     The latest example in how not to do PR is GrapheneOS.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Sunday, 28-May-2023 16:27:53 JST SuperDicq

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     • MattZ

     @colinsmatt11@gleasonator.com @chjara@snowdin.town Those things have nothing to do with free software specifically and apply to any sort of project in any industry.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Sunday, 28-May-2023 16:27:54 JST SuperDicq

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     • MattZ

     @colinsmatt11@gleasonator.com @chjara@snowdin.town Such as?

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     MattZ (colinsmatt11@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 28-May-2023 16:27:55 JST MattZ

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     • SuperDicq
     @SuperDicq @chjara Licenses only gives legal protection that to is limited to copyright and some liabilities.
     There are more important issues to handle than just those ones which cannot be achieved just by a license.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Sunday, 28-May-2023 16:27:56 JST SuperDicq

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     @chjara@snowdin.town AGPL isn't perfect but it's the best we have for its purpose. I wish there were viable other licenses that actually protected user freedom for webapplications.