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   condret :verified: :ancom: (condret@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 16:03:23 JST condret :verified: :ancom:
   Socialism is when productivity increases and people want to work less
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     @dushman @dusk @Shirei @Moon @condret @skylar I'm glad to find someone else that agrees with this. Infinite growth seems to be the main focus of governments and corporations right now, and it is killing us.
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     @dushman @dusk @Shirei @Moon @condret @skylar Hear me out, we should bring small villages back, and have efforts go to providing services that the local village community needs. I don't think scale is working for us, it creates a lot of waste and mismanagement. Try to think of ways to make this happen, to be more sustainable at the village level.
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     @sim @dusk @Shirei @Moon @condret @skylar
     I do agree on that. Infinite growth for its own sake is killing us and the planet.
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     @dushman @dusk @Shirei @Moon @condret @skylar I do think that cooperatives are better but they still have problems in ensuring that this happens. Scale is still a problem too, makes it harder for your voice to be heard on the direction to go when there are more people involved.
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     Dushman (dushman@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 16:03:07 JST Dushman

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     @sim @dusk @Shirei @Moon @condret @skylar
     Yeah I'm not saying it's perfect but it'd be a whole lot better than what we have right now
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     Yup I'd want to wholly replace them with cooperatives
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 16:03:09 JST Sexy Moon

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     @dushman @dusk @Shirei @condret @sim @skylar so cooperatives not joint-stock investor rogs
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     @dushman @dusk @Shirei @condret @sim @skylar do you mean limited liability or the ability of people to form organizations for doing things
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     I mean that industry should be organized and ran by the workers themselves, there should be no bosses.
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     Dushman (dushman@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 16:03:11 JST Dushman

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     We should go a step further and abolish corporations completely :marseybigbrain:
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     sim@shitposter.club's status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 16:03:12 JST sim

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     @skylar @dushman @dusk @Shirei @Moon @condret Corporations should definitely be limited in how much they can own, especially in an area so they can't hold a monopoly on the properties or land there.
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     @dushman @dusk @Shirei @Moon @condret @sim it'd be reasonable to set some limits on how much property a single person or corporate entity or whatever other jewish scheme can own
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     sim@shitposter.club's status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 16:03:14 JST sim

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     @dushman @dusk @Shirei @Moon @condret @skylar I will say that sometimes the landlord is another worker, and they will do what they can themselves on the property... it can be more expensive to maintain otherwise. Then you sometimes have live-in landlords.
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     Dushman (dushman@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 16:03:14 JST Dushman

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     My biggest issue is with the ones that have hundreds of houses/apartments and build absurd amounts of wealth off the hard work of regular people. Ultimately though the real beast is the system that allows this to happen in the first place.
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     @skylar @Moon @Shirei @condret @dusk
     Seriously though, they just leech off the work of the common man. They do not provide anyone with housing, quite the opposite since they buy up properties for the sole purpose of renting them out which drives up the prices for everyone else.
     Who built the property? Workers.
     Who repairs the property? Workers.
     Who cleans the property? Workers.
     Who takes care of the trash? Workers.
     Now what service does the landlord provide?
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     skylar :confederateflag:??? :z: (skylar@misskey.yandere.love)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 16:03:16 JST skylar :confederateflag:??? :z:

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     @dushman @dusk @Shirei @Moon @condret my brother in Christ maintaining a building takes a shit ton of work, whether you're maintaining the property yourself or spend the day herding cats to have employees and contractors do the work
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     >spend the day herding cats to have employees and contractors do the work
     
     Shiver me timbers, it's so hard hiring people to do the dirty work for you. Poor landlords, I hereby retract my previous statements.
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     None whatsoever. They are social parasites just like landlords.
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 16:03:18 JST Sexy Moon

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     @dushman @dusk @Shirei @condret none whatsoever? that's obviously false. they abuse their position to steal but they have always been necessary.
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     Financiers and bankers provide absolutely no benefit to society whatsoever. They just leech off the value real workers create.
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     condret :verified: :ancom: (condret@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 16:03:20 JST condret :verified: :ancom:

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     @dushman @dusk yeah, they think that
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     Ah he's one of those bougie pricks, now that explains it.
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     These people grind my fucking gears. Do they unironically think the world was a better place when people were working 14h a day in factories and dying from it left and right?
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     Dushman (dushman@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 16:03:22 JST Dushman

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     Didn't you know the more stuff the government does the more socialist it is? Trust me I'm an expert. :kagura-goober:
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     Dushman (dushman@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 16:07:07 JST Dushman

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     @sim @dusk @Shirei @Moon @condret @skylar
     Yeah. A system that requires infinite growth to keep functioning is obviously unsustainable and will starve us of resources soon enough.
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     Thus many housings just stay empty while could be actually use.
     I AM just laughing my ass off how the state tries to mąkę herd bread while failing to provide a Basic comodity of living space
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     Shirei (shirei@fedi.absturztau.be)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 16:12:54 JST Shirei

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     @dushman @dusk @Moon @condret @sim @skylar
     
     Well do you know that some of them cant even sell the property they own because the prices are ridiculous
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     Dushman (dushman@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 16:14:27 JST Dushman

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     @sim @dusk @Shirei @Moon @condret @skylar
     You should read Desert, it talks about exactly this among other things.
     https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-desert
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     Dushman (dushman@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 16:17:46 JST Dushman

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     @sim @Moon @Shirei @condret @dusk @skylar
     Which is why we should kill it before it kills us, it's inevitable if we do nothing about it.
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     @sim @dusk @Shirei @Moon @condret @skylar @meso
     Capitalism rests on the presumption of infinite growth which is just incompatible with reality. We live on a planet with finite resources that can and will become exhausted if we keep up extracting and wasting them at the rate we are right now.
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     Dushman (dushman@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 16:33:16 JST Dushman

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     @sim @dusk @Shirei @Moon @condret @skylar @meso
     Check this out as well
     https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/yavor-tarinski-the-fallacy-of-economic-growth
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     Dushman (dushman@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 16:37:20 JST Dushman

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     @sim @Moon @Shirei @condret @dusk @meso @skylar
     They ain't long so you can read both in one sitting if you are interested
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     @meso @Moon @Shirei @condret @dusk @sim @skylar
     Damn zoom zoom needs his video essays
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     @dushman @sim @Moon @Shirei @condret @dusk @skylar not reading
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     @Moon @Shirei @condret @dusk @meso @sim @skylar
     cc @nyx
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     meso (meso@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 16:48:26 JST meso

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     @dushman @Moon @Shirei @condret @dusk @sim @skylar i am veyr uninterested my political beliefs were unironically revealed to me in a dream
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     @dushman @Moon @Shirei @condret @dusk @sim @skylar dawg video essays are for faggots youve watched more video essays than me
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 17:54:48 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @sim @dushman @meso @dusk @Shirei @Moon @condret @skylar if you ever find yourself with too much time on your hands, you should read the "fiat life" section of the book "the fiat standard", which tries to explain these results (bad quality products being more profitable than good quality ones etc) as a function of the fiat monetary system that started roughly in the 70s.
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     @dushman @meso @dusk @Shirei @Moon @condret @skylar I'd also love to see us move to high quality goods, goods that are going to last our generation, maybe more. The profit motive and cheap labour won't encourage this.
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     @dushman @meso @dusk @Shirei @Moon @condret @skylar Yeah, it seems absurd to me just how much we waste resources that can't even be recycled on cheap junk. It should be based on community need at the local level where this can be figured out, not at the distances it happens right now on the off chance that somebody wants something. We shouldn't be trying to feed, clothe or entertain the world, but the local village.
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     @sim @meso @dusk @Shirei @Moon @condret @skylar
     Yeah I wholeheartedly agree with that
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     sim@shitposter.club's status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 18:11:51 JST sim

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     @lain @dushman @meso @dusk @Shirei @Moon @condret @skylar Damn. I seem to be filling much of my spare time with fedi right now. But I should look into the fiat system more here, how it relates to quality of goods.
     
     Would be interesting to figure out how to create the ideal village and community. When we try to get bigger, it seems to tip the scale and creates a dysfunctional society. Like, making the countryside feed the cities hasn't worked out well for us, led to a lot more unemployment and starvation. It displaced people.
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