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   M. Night Charlemayne (deerblood@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 16-May-2023 05:04:23 JST M. Night Charlemayne

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   @wgiwf @SuperSnekFriend @NotImportant @PraxisOfEvil I was briefly dating a Baptist woman who was very involved in her church. I went to a service with her, and it was 100% not for me. Just very different as a Catholic. Maybe its a southern thing but I don't think you really understand or appreciate how alientating overt and intense Protestant displays are to people who aren't Protestant
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     Zealist (zealist@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 16-May-2023 05:04:23 JST Zealist

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     @DEERBLOOD @wgiwf @SuperSnekFriend @NotImportant @PraxisOfEvil
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     M. Night Charlemayne (deerblood@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 16-May-2023 05:04:24 JST M. Night Charlemayne

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     @wgiwf @SuperSnekFriend @NotImportant @PraxisOfEvil So just what I said, except you're defining Secular as Nondenominational
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     Wolfgirl in Wheatfield (wgiwf@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 16-May-2023 05:04:24 JST Wolfgirl in Wheatfield

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     @DEERBLOOD @SuperSnekFriend @NotImportant @PraxisOfEvil But the key difference is the public declaration of Christian faith. That's really the only difference. I can't inherently trust a pagan no matter how much I'd want to.
     People get hung up on the idea that you can only support one thing at a time when that often isn't the case for many people. For example you could have a Louisiana Catholic Cajun supporting a Cajun nationalism, a larger Southern Nationalist movement that's mostly Baptist but will carve out a homeland for them and a larger mostly secular national Fascist movement that offers the same.
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     M. Night Charlemayne (deerblood@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 16-May-2023 05:04:24 JST M. Night Charlemayne

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     @wgiwf @SuperSnekFriend @NotImportant @PraxisOfEvil Pagans don't exist irl and i'm not interested in forcing people to beat their chest and yell Chris is King; the groypers do that
     
     Keeping it secular is the best way to maintain unity
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     Wolfgirl in Wheatfield (wgiwf@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 16-May-2023 05:04:25 JST Wolfgirl in Wheatfield

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     @DEERBLOOD @SuperSnekFriend @NotImportant @PraxisOfEvil One can have an explicitly Christian movement without it being denominational, it requires effort however. But more fundamentally, such a pan-White movement largely loses necessity after victory, being replaced by ethnic regionalism and nationalism. Innate difference cannot be papered over with ideology no matter how hard one tries—the racial history of America shows this to be true.
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     @wgiwf @SuperSnekFriend @NotImportant @PraxisOfEvil A nondeminational movement wouldn't survive first contact with someone asking "how do we feel about baptism?"
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     @DEERBLOOD @SuperSnekFriend @NotImportant @PraxisOfEvil A nondenominational movement would have to in action be secular besides professing the most common and obvious Christian tenants, IE Christ is lord, fags bad etc, and stick just to mission specific talk. You can get Catholics and Protestants to work together with the right leadership and the right goals in mind, you have to be smart about it and foster a spirit of professionalism and disinterest in petty squabbles for the sake of bigger things.
     But any such movement would be dissolved when no longer needed as all alliances of convenience against common foes are after victory.
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     ?uper?nekFriend ? (supersnekfriend@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 16-May-2023 05:04:26 JST ?uper?nekFriend ?

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     @NotImportant @PraxisOfEvil >don't waste time arguing about faith
     Without Christ, Whites will die out. If God of the Bible is true, not to imply that He is not, then you must obey His commands and put Him in preeminence above all things, race included. There is absolutely no exception to this in any way, not even optical, tactical, or strategic reasons
     
     "But if you will not obey the voice of the LORD your God or be careful to do all his commandments and his statutes that I [Moses] command you today, then all these curses shall come upon you and overtake you...
     The sojourner who is among you shall rise higher and higher above you, and you shall come down lower and lower.
     He shall lend to you, and you shall not lend to him. He shall be the head, and you shall be the tail...
     Whereas you were as numerous as the stars of heaven, you shall be left few in number, because you did not obey the voice of the LORD your God.
     And as the LORD took delight in doing you good and multiplying you, so the LORD will take delight in bringing ruin upon you and destroying you. And you shall be plucked off the land." (Deuteronomy 28:15, 43-44, 62-63)
     
     "Whoever is not with me [Christ] is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters." (Matthew 12:30)
     
     "If anyone comes to me and does not hate [i.e. love less than God and Christ] his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple." (Luke 14:26)
     
     >That is extremely specific and you will not find a group that does all 3.
     leagueofthesouth.com/
     identitydixie.com/
     >going out of your way to make an arbitrary line on the map to divide people that agree and are willing
     If that's what you think of Southerners as living in South, then there's no friendship really. We Southerns don't want to be mere Yankees with a Southern drawl.
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     @SuperSnekFriend @NotImportant @PraxisOfEvil Snek I have to respectfully disagree. The only way for a unified White movement is for it to be secular. It'll have Christian values just by being White. But I'm Catholic. I don't want to be part of an explicitly Protestant organization. Just like I don't expect you to want to join a Catholic one
     
     I'd also rather share a foxhole with an atheist Nazi over a conservative or liberal Christian
     
     By being secular we can best respect each other's religions
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     NotImportant (notimportant@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 16-May-2023 05:04:27 JST NotImportant

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     @SuperSnekFriend @PraxisOfEvil But that would be wrong seeing as they are /ourguys/
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     ?uper?nekFriend ? (supersnekfriend@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 16-May-2023 05:04:27 JST ?uper?nekFriend ?

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     @NotImportant @PraxisOfEvil Here's my problem though, I have specific, personal definition of whom I will call /myguys/:
     
     1. They are explicitly, emphatically, and truly Christian, promoting the the Word of God, the true Gospel of Jesus Christ, and the work of the Church.
     
     2. They explicitly and emphatically promote, speak, and act towards White interests in general.
     
     3. They explicitly and emphatically promote and act towards Southern Nationalism in particular.
     
     Patriot Front fails with #1 and #3, and #1 is an absolute deal broker. They are, at best, a neighbor who joyfully stirs up the pot, but not a group I can fully support in words, let alone with deeds or life.
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     NotImportant (notimportant@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 16-May-2023 05:04:27 JST NotImportant

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     @SuperSnekFriend @PraxisOfEvil That is extremely specific and you will not find a group that does all 3. At best maybe they'll talk about all 3, but in the process do nothing. I'm agnostic and am fine with working with Christians and pagans, as long as they put our people first and don't waste time arguing about faith. On the Southern Nationalism thing, as someone who spent their early years in the south and with family in the south, that's just goofy. It's good to be pride of what the South did, but going out of your way to make an arbitrary line on the map to divide people that agree and are willing to work towards the same goals is silly.
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     ?uper?nekFriend ? (supersnekfriend@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 16-May-2023 05:04:28 JST ?uper?nekFriend ?

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     @PraxisOfEvil You need a "Not glownigs, but not necessarily /ourguys/ either" option.