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    They call me Spitfire :pepeOK: (spitfire@poster.place)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:12:30 JST They call me Spitfire :pepeOK: They call me Spitfire :pepeOK:
    • verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android:
    These reasons for defederation are comedy gold. He calls @verita84 a literal nazi. :bigtyrone :

    https://social.naln1.ca/about
    In conversation Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:12:30 JST from poster.place permalink

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      Eris (eris@gleasonator.com)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:12:23 JST Eris Eris
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      • victor
      @victor @verita84 @spitfire The graph seems to imply that instances (PDS) don’t directly federate at all, they rely on massive BGS servers, which will either be run by Blue Sky or other big companies.

      In other words, it’s not decentralized in any useful sense of the word. It’s not even federated. It’s just a thing that jews in charge can use to cooperate while offloading some of the work to enthusiast tranny jannies (although it remains to be seen if the incentives exist to run the PDS, so it might be even worse.)
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      victor (victor@crucible.world)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:12:24 JST victor victor
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      • verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android:
      @verita84 @spitfire I looked through the Blue Sky code and docs, and from what I can tell, it's closer to Mastodon than Nostr.

      The big thing about Blue Sky is their "indexing" for content discovery. People can post whatever they like (free speech), but it may not get indexed by the big names. Theoretically anyone could run a custom indexer for others to use, but the resources to effectively crawl however many instances is likely impractical for an individual to sustain.

      So "The Algorithm" will still control what most people see, because they're too retarded to understand indexing and discovery, but there will still be the autists with their own obscure little indexing.

      ...But if that's how it's going to be, then there's really not much incentive to move off fedi.

      My two cents, anyway.
      In conversation Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:12:24 JST permalink
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      verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android: (verita84@poster.place)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:12:25 JST verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android: verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android:
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      @victor @spitfire

      Oh is blue sky the same concept?
      In conversation Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:12:25 JST permalink
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      verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android: (verita84@poster.place)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:12:26 JST verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android: verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android:
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      @victor @spitfire

      Oh dam. The user stats site look like it’s on the quick decline
      In conversation Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:12:26 JST permalink
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      victor (victor@crucible.world)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:12:26 JST victor victor
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      • verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android:
      @verita84 @spitfire Yeah, Nostr had a very brief window of opportunity to become a big thing, but visitors realized that the clients were all trash (focused on zaps instead of actually functioning well), and the community was boring.

      So at this point it's going to fade into obscurity for a while. It remains to be seen whether it will make a comeback later on or if it will just be another statistic.
      In conversation Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:12:26 JST permalink
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      victor (victor@crucible.world)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:12:27 JST victor victor
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      • verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android:
      @verita84 @spitfire I can't really tell. I think Damus is doing some shadowbanning thing that's controversial, but retards will keep using it because they don't have any principles and just want to get rich from bitcoin.

      Sounds like some of the devs are starting to look at the user retention rate and realizing that they're not hitting the mark if they want Nostr to last long-term. Not sure if that will actually lead to a cultural shift toward free speech, though. The whole community is a bunch of spineless soybots.
      In conversation Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:12:27 JST permalink
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      victor (victor@crucible.world)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:12:28 JST victor victor
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      • verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android:
      @verita84 @spitfire If only more instances would have a nice, personal touch to their block reasons. All I ever get is "transphobic" or "copied from some other list lol idk"
      In conversation Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:12:28 JST permalink
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      verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android: (verita84@poster.place)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:12:28 JST verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android: verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android:
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      @victor @spitfire

      Did nostr get bad with censorship yet?
      In conversation Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:12:28 JST permalink
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      verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android: (verita84@poster.place)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:12:29 JST verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android: verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android:
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      I accept those terms :yes:
      In conversation Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:12:29 JST permalink
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      verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android: (verita84@poster.place)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:12:48 JST verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android: verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android:
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      @eris @victor @spitfire

      This looks over complicated and retarded
      In conversation Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:12:48 JST permalink
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      Eris (eris@gleasonator.com)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:12:48 JST Eris Eris
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      • victor
      @verita84 @victor @spitfire The only part of the graph that matters is this.
      In conversation Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:12:48 JST permalink

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      Eris (eris@gleasonator.com)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:13:14 JST Eris Eris
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      @verita84 @victor @i @spitfire They’re building it entirely with the mindset of big corpos buying in, and not thinking of the needs of our autistic army. It’s not a product designed for us, which is fine, but I’m not going to use it unless the final product looks different from this.
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      verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android: (verita84@poster.place)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:13:15 JST verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android: verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android:
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      @eris @victor @i @spitfire

      So they take what’s good and works about mastodon and ignores it and makes this over complicated monstrosity
      In conversation Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:13:15 JST permalink
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      Eris (eris@gleasonator.com)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:13:16 JST Eris Eris
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      @i @victor @spitfire @verita84 If they do server to server then one of the layers is redundant.
      In conversation Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:13:16 JST permalink
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      :blank: (i@declin.eu)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:13:17 JST :blank: :blank:
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      • Eris
      • victor
      @eris @victor @spitfire @verita84 it's to be seen if they do server to server, but they have talked about it
      In conversation Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:13:17 JST permalink

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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:17:49 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • victor
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      @eris @verita84 @victor @i @spitfire Who is even the target audience? That's what I'm wondering. Someone who badly wants to jump ship from Twitter, but they're not free speech aligned, but they want it to be a protocol, but Mastodon isn't good enough. Show me that person.
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      Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:20:43 JST Alex Gleason Alex Gleason
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      • verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android:
      • Eris
      • victor
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      @eris @verita84 @victor @i @spitfire A lot of people complaining that Mastodon doesn't have quote posts and stuff, don't actually want Mastodon with quote posts. We have that, it's called Soapbox. They're just using it as an excuse because they actually just want centralized social media.
      In conversation Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:20:43 JST permalink
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      Johnny Peligro :cirno: (mischievousutomatosu@boks.moe)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:22:04 JST Johnny Peligro :cirno: Johnny Peligro :cirno:
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      • Johnny Peligro :cirno:
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      @alex @eris @i @spitfire @verita84 @victor that said most are too dumb to realize there's more stuff than just mastardon
      In conversation Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:22:04 JST permalink
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      Johnny Peligro :cirno: (mischievousutomatosu@boks.moe)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:22:08 JST Johnny Peligro :cirno: Johnny Peligro :cirno:
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      • verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android:
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      @alex @victor @i @eris @spitfire @verita84 many people might not like the rebaded/soapbox design though
      In conversation Saturday, 13-May-2023 08:22:08 JST permalink
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      Eris (eris@gleasonator.com)'s status on Saturday, 13-May-2023 09:58:54 JST Eris Eris
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      • verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android:
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      @alex @verita84 @victor @i @spitfire I think they started this with the expectation that Twitter was going to be the flagship and just never adjusted their expectations when the situation changed. This was supposed to be a mainstream protocol right off the bat, not something you migrate to.
      In conversation Saturday, 13-May-2023 09:58:54 JST permalink
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