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   Jason Evangelho (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 05:37:02 JST Jason Evangelho

   "I'm gonna need a hacksaw."

   ~Jack Bauer | 24 Season 2, Episode 1

   #TV

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     Jason Evangelho (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 16:19:54 JST Jason Evangelho

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     • M. Forester

     @mforester For me it remains to be seen as I've only just started rewatching Season 2.

     Season 1 aired before 9/11...

     Is that the context you're referring to?

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     M. Forester (mforester@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 16:19:55 JST M. Forester

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     @killyourfm I used to love that show, but I can no longer enjoy it. 😩
     It's not the graphic or implied violence, I still enjoy that from time to time (on screen), but rather the context which is probably impossible to fix.
     Oh well, I've seen Seasons 1-9 at least twice each. That should be enough for a lifetime. 😅

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     Jason Evangelho (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 17:36:21 JST Jason Evangelho

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     • M. Forester

     @mforester I definitely hear your point. The power of Season 1's plot was that the villains didn't have the overused "let's hurt America" motivation. It was personal, and the motives made sense and informed just about every action the main characters took.

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     M. Forester (mforester@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 17:36:22 JST M. Forester

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     @killyourfm In any case, I hope it doesn't dampen your enjoyment. 🙂 The first two seasons of 24 are great action and drama. I remember the third season as being a bit weaker, but the ones after that were still enjoyable.

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     M. Forester (mforester@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 17:36:23 JST M. Forester

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     @killyourfm come to think of it, it might also be that I fell in with all the "ooraah" after the 9/11 attacks and now that I'm older feel ashamed.
     And I think 24 with it's theme of "whatever it takes" played at least a part in that. I was also just 14 in 2001.
     It's possible that I might be able to unfocus my eyes enough to enjoy at least the first few seasons of 24.
     It's also possible that my memory is playing tricks on me and I'm unfair towards the show.

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     M. Forester (mforester@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 17:36:24 JST M. Forester

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     @killyourfm kinda. But also everything that went on in Guantanamo. 😢
     There are only a few occasions where torture is the wrong answer in 24. And in at least one instance the person being tortured earlier is okay with Jack, because "he didn't know better at that time". I can't remember if there are ever any repercussions for illegal torture in the show.
     I feel like the first two seasons of Homeland (all I've seen) have a more varied approach and show the consequences more.