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   Anil Dash (anildash@me.dm)'s status on Monday, 24-Apr-2023 23:20:22 JST Anil Dash

   • Thomas 🔭🕹️

   @thomasfuchs Disagree with a lot of these assertions, but I understand why you feel that way.

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     Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 24-Apr-2023 16:37:40 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • かき@GNUsocialJP

     @anildash Sign-up and discovery is much easier when you only have one node!

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     Anil Dash (anildash@me.dm)'s status on Monday, 24-Apr-2023 16:37:41 JST Anil Dash

     Been playing around with Bluesky a bit & it’s pretty interesting. They have an easier consumer experience (signup/discovery/UI works like Twitter) and it all feels very snappy. I like how they use domain names (or subdomains) instead of what look like funky email addresses. By far the biggest problem Jay & co face is that Jack Dorsey has effectively poisoned the well on everything from people assuming it’s a crypto platform (it’s not) to assuming (understandably) that be bad at trust & safety.

     Paul Cantrell repeated this.
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     Anil Dash (anildash@me.dm)'s status on Monday, 24-Apr-2023 22:42:08 JST Anil Dash

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     I don’t think we need another protocol or whatever really, but I do think there should be an open-web platform that prioritizes building a consumer-grade experience that is suitable for orgs & institutions. I think a lot of cultural barriers make that harder to do in the fediverse (especially in the mastodon sphere), but I’m agnostic as to whether it happens on ActivityPub or the (as-yet-unproven) AT Protocol. Glad to see cool, open stuff being made.

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     Anil Dash (anildash@me.dm)'s status on Monday, 24-Apr-2023 23:11:31 JST Anil Dash

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     To be clear, I love the fediverse and Mastodon, and that’s why I’ve been here from the start. I think it’s been a great evolution from the RSS era to Atom to ActivityPub to Mastodon API (which is a defacto standard on top of all of that) but I also appreciate learning from other systems & seeing what’s good about them. I’m not going anywhere, but I am pushing for this entire ecosystem to interoperate and grow to accommodate as many different use cases as possible.

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     Scott N. :verified_flashing: (scottnasello@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 24-Apr-2023 23:27:59 JST Scott N. :verified_flashing:

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @anildash @thomasfuchs i'm happy to kick the tires on bluesky, just need a code :heart_cyber:

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     pmonks (330ppm) (pmonks@sfba.social)'s status on Monday, 24-Apr-2023 23:29:41 JST pmonks (330ppm)

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs fwiw I strongly disagree with your first claim: “People don’t care about who runs it” and perhaps, like me, it was that sweeping generalisation that @anildash was responding to.

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     Anil Dash (anildash@me.dm)'s status on Monday, 24-Apr-2023 23:37:09 JST Anil Dash

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs I have quote posts in the client I use, so you're being reductive. You're also comparing to another system for which parity is a non-goal for Mastodon. Perhaps it _should_ be, but it's silly to contrast with something that's not supposed to be an equivalent experience.

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     pmonks (330ppm) (pmonks@sfba.social)'s status on Monday, 24-Apr-2023 23:39:18 JST pmonks (330ppm)

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs genuinely curious here: do you have evidence to support that claim? All I have to support the opposite position are my own social circles, which is clearly just anecdotal evidence (albeit for an N of one or two hundred).

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     Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: (tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com)'s status on Monday, 24-Apr-2023 23:39:37 JST Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️
     @thomasfuchs Replies don't work? News to me.
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     Jon Harbert (jon_harbert@mas.to)'s status on Monday, 24-Apr-2023 23:42:40 JST Jon Harbert

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs
     Thomas, What do you mean by broken replies? Are you talking about conversation threading?
     @anildash

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     Miguel de Icaza ᯅ🍉 (migueldeicaza@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 24-Apr-2023 23:44:00 JST Miguel de Icaza ᯅ🍉

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     • Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:
     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @tk @thomasfuchs you don’t see all the replies, depending on some details I can’t recall.

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     pmonks (330ppm) (pmonks@sfba.social)'s status on Monday, 24-Apr-2023 23:44:48 JST pmonks (330ppm)

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs sounds like all we have is anecdotal evidence then.

     And to be clear: I’m not some uncritical Mastodon / Fediverse fanboy. I have my own concerns about the technology. I just happen to have a lot more faith *generally* in open source/standards/protocols than I do in *any* corporation or techbro “luminary” (whether that’s someone who seems relatively harmless, like Jack Dorsey, or someone who seems seriously unhinged, like Elon Musk).

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     Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: (tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com)'s status on Monday, 24-Apr-2023 23:45:37 JST Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:

     • Miguel de Icaza ᯅ🍉
     • Thomas 🔭🕹️
     @thomasfuchs @Migueldeicaza I'm sure a lot of people like this since they won't see replies from servers they don't like. (See also: fediblock)
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     Jonathan Hendry (jonhendry@iosdev.space)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Apr-2023 00:25:55 JST Jonathan Hendry

     • Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:
     • Miguel de Icaza ᯅ🍉
     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs @Migueldeicaza @tk

     Which is part of the mechanism for avoiding participation by servers full of trolls.

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     Michael Miller :blobrdm: 🦆 (raineer@frontrange.co)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Apr-2023 05:00:58 JST Michael Miller :blobrdm: 🦆

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     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @anildash @thomasfuchs I check out of the argument at “mastodon was designed to make social interactions harder”. This is wholly inaccurate and just shared in bad faith. I’m getting tired of people spending so much effort on this platform just to shit on it and advertise others.

     Mastodon is designed to allow me to choose who I interact with. Not getting replies from a server I don’t federate with is a feature, not a bug.

     The “quote toot” thing is just a tired argument. Yes - the first decade of the place, the authors didn’t want it, and they had their reasons (and I defend them, even though I want quote-toots). BUT, welcome to the open web, where there are now clients with quote-toots, so this is now an outdated view. And, even now, Eugene has said that he’s changing his mind on it.