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   Kat Marchán 🐈 (zkat@toot.cat)'s status on Friday, 17-Mar-2023 18:14:45 JST Kat Marchán 🐈

   this LLM shit is worse than the cryptocurrency nonsense because a lot of otherwise reasonable techies who saw right through the technolibertarian shit of blockchain stuff are falling head over heels for fancy expensive markov chains.

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     pettter (pettter@mastodon.acc.umu.se)'s status on Friday, 17-Mar-2023 18:14:44 JST pettter

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     @zkat I feel the thing is that cryptocurrencies was all financial engineering with no actual material impact beyond that - no reorganization or reframing or replacement of labour whatsoever.

     LLM, however, are probably going to affect material conditions in certain ways. Not necessarily _good_ ways, to be sure, and not super major ways, but they have already displaced and affected some workers (e.g. transcribers, translators) and will probably affect more, as long as they keep the costs down. >

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     pettter (pettter@mastodon.acc.umu.se)'s status on Friday, 17-Mar-2023 18:19:36 JST pettter

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     @zkat Fancy autocorrect or bad-to-decent cross-media translation (audio-to-text-to-image) absolutely affect people who work with those translations, intensifying the exploitation and alienation already present in all work under capitalism further for those people.

     And since the people doing that sort of work sometimes/often do it to support other creative work, and know people in media more generally, that's going to be more visible than some previous shifts in labour relations.

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     pettter (pettter@mastodon.acc.umu.se)'s status on Friday, 17-Mar-2023 18:22:36 JST pettter

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     @zkat To be absolutely clear, though, I personally think that _general_ LLM are too expensive to run and train to be useful for very long. They are useful as a positioning tool in the class war, putting pressure on the lower middle class and intelligentsia in particular, but ultimately they don't actually save that much resources.