@alex GPT-3 is a glorified StackOverflow. No one's going to replace developers, it would just streamline the process even further. At worst you'd get an even bigger oversaturation of job market than it already is.
@realcaseyrollins What also doesn’t work is nobody having a job because machines can do it, resulting in nobody being able to afford to buy the stuff machines produce.
And the REALLY retarded solution is to regulate automation and force people to do stupid work robots could do only for the sake of upholding the status quo. There are people actually advocating for this.
If not UBI, how about a 4-day work week for starters. It makes no sense for humanity to progress and the only people who benefit from it are billionaires.
@alex Haha! Yeah the #UBI isn't a good idea though; it's quite literally why we're in the situation we're in rn financially; #Trump tried it for a year or two to make the consequences of essentially halting a lot of the economy in reaction to #COVID19 go away (it didn't work)
The end result of the #UBI is #Venezuela money, at best.
@realcaseyrollins Every job CAN be automated. That’s a philosophical statement. It can possibly exist in this world or universe. The social change it would take to get there, and whether humans are actually capable of it, when, and how, are up for debate.
@alex@realcaseyrollins I feel like there should be a better way of solving automation than making people dependent on their government. Ideally, everyone should own the robots, but I doubt companies are going to rent them from the workers if they can get them cheaper elsewhere. Or maybe a decentralised UBI based on cryptocurrency, like that Duniter project? It might be hard to get people to adopt it if the value is constantly going down though, so maybe the government could accept it for taxes. Idk. I'm not an expert economist. These are just a few ideas I thought of.
There is an assumption that in their acquisition of that money that they earned it. They haven't. The working schlubs earned it, and the rich acquired it from them through our thoroughly fucked up economic system. In my view, it's the governments responsibility to tax it back and redistribute it back down to the class of people that actually earned it.
@leftout@alex Hmm. In my ideal government financial structure, the government would no longer print money, and the only tax would be a flat sales tax on either everyone, or only the middle 80% (this would be to enable greater social mobility of the lowest classes, and incentivize those in the middle class to strive to make more, and thus be free of taxes). I believe all taxes should go to the government, but also that they should be the only way a government makes money.
Assuming though, that we make only this change...I'm just not sure where the money will come from *proportionally*. Are you advocating for a #RobinHood tax on just rich people? Well that's not fair. If you were to apply a new tax on everyone though, many people might not like that.
I also generally don't like the idea that we should take money from the rich and give it to the poor, that concept is usually dominated by nothing but envy anyways. It's probably best to grow up and foster an economy where the middle and lower classes can more easily make more money, rather than punishing the successful people for being too successful.
Let’s look at that highlighted paragraph in that link you gave me.
“ Inflation is caused when the money supply in an economy grows at faster rate than the economy’s ability to produce goods and services.”
This is an example of how you can spin something that goes over the head of your audience.
There is a difference between adding money to the economy, which causes inflation, and redistributing money, which does not. UBI that takes from the very rich and gives to the poor does not cause inflation. Instead, it stimulates the economy, creates jobs, and support to local business.
I'll give you an example of an American state that has something related to UBI. It's a Universal Dividend (UD) paid to every resident of Alaska funded by their natural resources. When the UD cheques go out, it's common for business to offer discounts to capture some of the extra spending capacity. Prices go down when the cheques go out. This is not inflation.
Additionally, when this was introduced in 1982, Alaska went form having the highest rate of infection in the US to the lower. Universal Dividends has left Alaskans with less inflation, not more.
@leftout@alex Ah I see; agreed, there's no problem with this plan, because of the following:
> The money for a basic income guarantee would be already existing money circulated through the economic system. It would not be new money, just money shifted from one location to another. This means that the value of each dollar has not changed. The dollar itself has only changed hands.
Although, I am not quite sure where the money would come from.
If the rich continue to suck more up from the bottom, I’m all for taxing them way more and funnelling that back down to where they got it from. Cuz remember, poor people labour is where they got it from.