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   Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 15:16:22 JST Chris Trottier

   • Fediverse News

   ?

   Wait. People are saying Meta's decentralized app will be powered by #ActivityPub, and will interoperate with Mastodon.

   On top of it, it will be Instagram-branded.

   Surprising. But again, I'll believe it when I see it.

   https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/startup/meta-mulls-a-twitter-competitor-codenamed-p92-that-will-be-interoperable-with-mastodon-10223961.html

   @fediversenews

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     Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 15:16:22 JST Chris Trottier

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     Wow. We're really going to see a Fediverse dogpile soon.

     It doesn't matter if Meta never does this.

     The point is enough developers will *think* Meta will do this -- and this is going to cause an avalanche of development.

     Not all these developers will believe in decentralization. They'll be opportunists through and through.

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     stark@techhub:~$ █ (stark9837@techhub.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 17:20:16 JST stark@techhub:~$ █

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     @atomicpoet

     People need to understand.

     #Google isn't a search engine.
     #Facebook isn't a journal to share with your friend.
     #Instagram isn't a public photo album.
     #Twitter isn't a micro-blogging website.

     They are all advertisement companies.

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     Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 17:20:17 JST Chris Trottier

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     What do you want to bet that Tumblr, Flickr, and Post are going to want to get the drop on Meta beforehand?

     ?

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     Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 17:20:17 JST Chris Trottier

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     What all these Johnny-Come-Latelys will need to understand:

     * The Fediverse isn't a client
     * The Fediverse isn't Mastodon
     * The Fediverse isn't ActivityPub

     The Fediverse is an entire ecosystem that is as revolutionary as the web itself.

     While the web connects servers, the Fediverse does something more drastic: it connects people!

     This will change the Internet forever, and if Meta goes through with this, it spells their doom.

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     Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 17:20:17 JST Chris Trottier

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     LOL! Meta exists to track people. That's their whole game. If they can't track people, why do they even exist?

     If they create a decentralized social network that uses ActivityPub and is compatible with Mastodon, how are they going to monetize?

     Will they convince every owner of an instance to install a tracker so Meta can feed people ads?

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     Not if I can run my own instance for $5/month.

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     Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 17:20:18 JST Chris Trottier

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     Mark Zuckerberg will be in a world of hurt if he thinks the Fediverse is anything like the Metaverse -- and he can just waltz in with one instance, taking all the real estate.

     LMAO!

     If Meta tries to be Meta -- and they'll try! -- that will be a lesson for the textbooks!

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     Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 17:20:19 JST Chris Trottier

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     I'm no fool. Meta is definitely going to try to "embrace, extend, and extinguish" if they actually follow through on a decentralized social network.

     In my view, they're no different from Cloudflare.

     But you know what we just caused them to do? Acknowledge the Fediverse.

     Think about that.

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     Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 17:20:19 JST Chris Trottier

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     In the meantime, this Meta adventure with decentralized social networks socially validates everything I've been doing for the past 5 years.

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     Seriously, the pendulum has officially swung in my direction!

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 11-Mar-2023 12:01:31 JST clacke

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     @atomicpoet Something similar to what Medium did then.
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     Jupiter Rowland (jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu)'s status on Monday, 20-Mar-2023 09:46:33 JST Jupiter Rowland

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     @Chris Trottier @Fediverse News Someone please make a comparison between pictures from #HorizonWorlds from today and pictures from Second Life from 8 years ago.
     
     Seriously, I could outfit an avatar in #OpenSimulator with only free and legal content made in and for #OpenSim, and it'd look better than that.
     
     For comparison: This is what a 2023 Second Life avatar can look like without spending any money on it. Now imagine what a Second Life avatar can look like nowadays if you pump $50 into it.
     
     Look through the #SecondLife hashtag, and you'll see even more in-world pictures that blow Zuck's stuff out of the water without even breaking a sweat. Granted, you won't get that quality at 60fps from stand-alone VR goggles, but still.
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     Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 20-Mar-2023 09:46:34 JST Chris Trottier

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     If you want to know why I'm kind of ecstatic about Meta's decentralized social network with ActivityPub, I have two words for you:

     "Horizon Worlds".

     If you've never heard of this, go ahead and do a web search on those two words ?

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     Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 20-Mar-2023 09:46:34 JST Chris Trottier

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     I've been tracking Meta every day for 5 years.

     They no longer have focus.

     They're now going through a second round of lay-offs within a year.

     This year, they spent $13B on the Metaverse, and that won't reach mass appeal for another decade.

     Gen Z wants nothing to do with them.

     I'm not taking them lightly, but I'm sure as hell ready to challenge them.

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     Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 20-Mar-2023 09:46:34 JST Chris Trottier

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     How everyone else sees Meta: ? ?

     How I see Meta: ? ?

     Remember, this is the company that gave us the "innovation" of no legs!

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     Jupiter Rowland (jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu)'s status on Monday, 20-Mar-2023 09:57:57 JST Jupiter Rowland

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     @Chris Trottier @Fediverse News They spent $13B on "inventing the Metaverse."
     
     Only that they didn't invent the Metaverse. Either they believed they did, or they knew they didn't, but they had enough market power to bullshit everyone else into believing they did. For 99% of all people out there, #TheMetaverse refers to #HorizonWorlds.
     
     As a matter of fact, however, the term #Metaverse has been used in conjunction with actually existing #VirtualWorlds at least as early as 2008, 15 years ago. That was the year when #OpenSimulator introduced the #Hypergrid, the first federation between independently-run virtual worlds, known as "grids" in #OpenSim lingo. The Hypergrid enabled you to visit grids with avatars registered on other grids. If anything deserved being called "metaverse," the Hypergrid became that.
     
     Also, starting as early as 2008, single grids started using the term "metaverse" for themselves. In 2022, the oldest and once biggest German grid shut down after 14 years of operation: the #Metropolis Metaversum.
     
     And guess what? OpenSim and the Hypergrid are still around. Not only still around, but growing. There are over 400 public grids and thousands upon thousands of small private grids, over 95% of which are connected to the Hypergrid. And there are still grids older than Zuck's Metaverse dreams which have "Metaverse" in their names such as the Alternate Metaverse which has gone by this name since late 2019.
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     simon_greenwood@offworld.fedisonic.cloud's status on Monday, 20-Mar-2023 09:58:52 JST simon_greenwood

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     • Jupiter Rowland
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     @jupiter_rowland @fediversenews the term 'metaverse' at least goes back to Neal Stephenson's 'Snow Crash' in 1992 and people have been trying to make it happen since around the same time. SGi's VRML (Virtual Reality Markup Language) matured at about the same time as HTML 0.9 and there were a few attempts at making it work, but it pretty much died with SGI.

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     MikeK (mkarliner@mastodon.modern-industry.com)'s status on Monday, 20-Mar-2023 10:48:58 JST MikeK

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     @atomicpoet

     I suspect what we need is not to try to stop Meta, but to encourage Google and any other big players.
     The attraction of the Fediverse is portability, the more big players we have, the more competition.

     There are big players in the phone system, but also plenty of smaller players riding on the big guys intrastructure.

     The EU has been effective in this instance.

     We could learn a lot from this analogy.

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