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   Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Feb-2023 14:43:52 JST Chris Trottier

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   ? CONFIRMED ?

   Mammoth iOS client for Mastodon has received VC funding.

   It's the first VC-backed Mastodon client that I know about.

   This changes the dynamics of the Fediverse big time!

   https://mammoth.writeas.com/we-are-hiring

   @fediversenews

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     Jon (darkwraithlord@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Feb-2023 14:53:09 JST Jon

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     @atomicpoet @fediversenews And so it begins... ?♂️

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     Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Feb-2023 14:53:39 JST Chris Trottier

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     @DarkWraithLord @fediversenews It's 2008 all over again.

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     Jon (darkwraithlord@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Feb-2023 14:55:35 JST Jon

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     @atomicpoet @fediversenews Though I feel this will happen much faster than the past. Things will look different around here end of year.

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     Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Feb-2023 14:59:10 JST Chris Trottier

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     @DarkWraithLord @fediversenews Things change each month.

     But when one VC does something, many VCs tend to rush in.

     In fact, I had an inkling this would happen.

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     Mark Poole ?️‍??? (markpoole@tech.lgbt)'s status on Saturday, 25-Feb-2023 21:19:50 JST Mark Poole ?️‍???

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     @atomicpoet @fediversenews What’s the big appeal? I loathe the Mastodon app but like Tooot and Metatext. But are the VCs going to make money out of funding new fediverse client apps? Advertising?

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     Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Feb-2023 21:19:51 JST Chris Trottier

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     @markpoole @fediversenews That's the big question, isn't it?

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 25-Feb-2023 21:21:18 JST clacke

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     @aulia @atomicpoet Maybe those under embargo include additional investors, and "support" is ambiguous whether it's about funding or not.
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     Aulia Masna :verified: (aulia@octodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Feb-2023 21:21:19 JST Aulia Masna :verified:

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     @atomicpoet interesting that this was mentioned in a post yesterday when today’s post says they’re still getting disclosure approval https://mammoth.writeas.com/our-business-model

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     Christoffer Tallerås 🇧🇻 (cbt@snabelen.no)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:28:53 JST Christoffer Tallerås 🇧🇻

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     @atomicpoet i've been waiting for this since 2016.

     The best possible ecosystem I have seen been realised that is synonimous to activetypub is email, which boasts an amazing ecosystem of diverse service types from corporations, communityservers, volunteer platforms to personal private servers.

     And if this type of network is to be helpful to everybody it also needs to have private ones too. I hope mozilla can be that with all my heart. Mozilla is my fave org thing theyre so guud ?

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     Drifthood (drifthood@aus.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:28:57 JST Drifthood

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     @atomicpoet @fediversenews when dealing with capitalists please never forget

     Biggie Smalls - Ten Crack Commandments

     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYb_8MM1tGQ

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     Fábio Costa 🐇🕐🎩☕ (fabiocosta0305@ursal.zone)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:29:00 JST Fábio Costa 🐇🕐🎩☕

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     @atomicpoet @fediversenews ready to see #instapoor happening when/if Mammoth get on Android

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     R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd: (rl_dane@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:29:02 JST R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:

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     @atomicpoet @fediversenews

     This is bad. Vulture Capitalists never make anything better.

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     Marlene Breitenstein Art (breitensteinart@mastodon.art)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:29:07 JST Marlene Breitenstein Art

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     @atomicpoet @fediversenews — Mozilla is all well and good, but this concerns me from a bigger picture standpoint. How do VCs plan to capitalize off the Fediverse? This is a free and open source model.

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     Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:29:09 JST Chris Trottier

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     @breitensteinart One can make a living off free and open source. Many companies can do it. For example, the folks who make Nextcloud.

     The bigger question I have is: how do these VCs plan on achieving their ROI?

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     stark@techhub:~$ █ (stark9837@techhub.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:29:31 JST stark@techhub:~$ █

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     @breitensteinart @atomicpoet @fediversenews #mozilla is one of the good ones. They, similar to the #w3c support internet projects even when non-profit. They believe in the greater good.

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     BernieWonIowa (berniewoniowa@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:29:37 JST BernieWonIowa

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     @Stark9837 @breitensteinart @atomicpoet @fediversenews

     Rich people don't just give their money away

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     Marlene Breitenstein Art (breitensteinart@mastodon.art)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:30:44 JST Marlene Breitenstein Art

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     @Stark9837 @atomicpoet @fediversenews — Hear hear!

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     NiceMicro (nicemicro@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:31:33 JST NiceMicro

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     @atomicpoet They might be still be under the impression that growth in user numbers = revenue in the future.

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     Jupiter Rowland (jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:31:35 JST Jupiter Rowland

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     #Proprietary, #NonFree, #Commercial, #ClosedSource iPhone and (maybe) Android apps which secretly siphon all data they can and sell it to Google and Facebook without the user ever noticing, much less consenting to it.
     
     This is particularly tempting on iOS where it's very difficult to offer #FreeLibreOpenSourceSoftware because the Apple App Store makes it almost impossible to comply with certain #FreeSoftware licenses, and other app sources are basically illegal AFAIK.
     
     On Android, one could say that apps on the Google Play Store are either also available on F-Droid or closed-source spyware that secretly hands your private data over to Google and Facebook.
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     shep (shep@coredump.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:31:40 JST shep

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     @atomicpoet @breitensteinart There are two ways to make money in social media: subscription/value add monetization or harvesting the shit out of user data (or both if you’re really evil).

     The former isn’t as lucrative as the latter.

     User data has long been a gold mine for startups because it’s pretty easy to sell to Google, Facebook, etc for correlation in an already enormous data lake.

     Until moth.social says otherwise, I am assuming nefarious intentions.

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     AlisonW (alisonw@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:31:46 JST AlisonW

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     @atomicpoet @breitensteinart
     Except Nextcloud and other companies are selling support services in a B2B environment. Other than making white label purchaser-specific versions of Mastodon I don't see any source of profit for them other than the sale of data / including advertising.

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     Jupiter Rowland (jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:31:50 JST Jupiter Rowland

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     As I've said elsewhere, there can be assumed to be only two kinds of Android apps on the Google Play Store.
     
     One, those that are also on F-Droid. F-Droid requires everything to be #OpenSource, for F-Droid compiles all apps itself. You can't submit binary blobs to F-Droid, even if they're licensed under the GPL.
     
     Two, everything else. Unless it explicitly says otherwise, everything else has to be taken as #ClosedSource. And non-free, closed-source apps are way more often than not ripe with libraries that "phone home" to Google and Facebook. With no user consent. With no chance to opt out other than by third-party means. Without even telling the user. In fact, even if an app is said to be open-source, that doesn't mean that the binary blob submitted to Google was built from the publicly-available sources.
     
     iOS doesn't even have anything like F-Droid. And iOS puts obstacles in the way of providing open-source apps.
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     Alaric Aloor??⚽️? (alaric@ioc.exchange)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:31:57 JST Alaric Aloor??⚽️?

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     @atomicpoet

     So, they "announced" the investors on the 23rd, but on the 24th, they are still "getting the OK from everyone to announce" ?

     They mention the Brave "search monetization" model as well here. Either way, user data is going to be scraped for ads from Mastodon which continues to be indexed despite instance/user mitigations.

     https://mammoth.writeas.com/our-business-model

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     mothball蛾玉 (?summer boy?) (moth_ball@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:32:57 JST mothball蛾玉 (?summer boy?)

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     @atomicpoet @fediversenews
     >moth.social
     MY CULTURE IS NOT YOUR DOMAIN
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     mpjgregoire@mamot.fr's status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:33:30 JST mpjgregoire

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     @BernieWonIowa
     True, but most VC investments are money-losers.

     @Stark9837 @breitensteinart @atomicpoet @fediversenews

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     Merilee D. Karr, MD, MFA (merileedkarr@federated.press)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:35:49 JST Merilee D. Karr, MD, MFA

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     @atomicpoet @fediversenews @mammoth
     For the better, I hope?

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     Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Feb-2023 13:35:59 JST Chris Trottier

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     @merileedkarr @fediversenews @mammoth Only time will tell.