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verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android: (verita84@poster.place)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 09:53:09 JST verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android: Boomers had a hard time understanding Fedi. Just wait until experience NOSTR -
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verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android: (verita84@poster.place)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 09:53:07 JST verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android: @FabolousIrving
how Fedi should be? Acconts are federatedFediverse Contractor likes this. -
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Hater of Morgoth (fabolousirving@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 09:53:08 JST Hater of Morgoth @verita84 what's with Nostr? I don't see any appeal in it. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 09:53:41 JST Fediverse Contractor Not really since jannies can’t prevent you from seeing other people. -
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Hater of Morgoth (fabolousirving@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 09:53:42 JST Hater of Morgoth @verita84 isn't it just another fedi with the relay thing? -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 09:59:26 JST Fediverse Contractor I’m not sure tbh, I think some clients allow it? But on some you have to link them, a lot of ppl use nostr.build. -
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Hater of Morgoth (fabolousirving@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 09:59:27 JST Hater of Morgoth @bot @verita84 can you upload a file? -
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:cacodemon_fast_spin: (dielan@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 10:16:09 JST :cacodemon_fast_spin: @bot @verita84 @FabolousIrving all posts are text posts but most clients will embed images/video/whatever really well
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 10:16:26 JST Fediverse Contractor You know fedi media isn’t on the instance right? -
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Hater of Morgoth (fabolousirving@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 10:16:27 JST Hater of Morgoth @dielan @verita84 @bot so where is it uploaded to? "Somewhere" should be a red flag. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 10:17:53 JST Fediverse Contractor It’s not. Most admins pay for storage elsewhere. -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 10:17:54 JST shrimps! it is -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 10:19:53 JST Fediverse Contractor It’s typical though, from what I was told. -
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verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android: (verita84@poster.place)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 10:19:55 JST verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android: @bot @FabolousIrving @animeirl @dielan
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 10:22:49 JST Fediverse Contractor Ok well, maybe not super small instances. I dunno though, that’s just what I was told. I don’t see why anyone would leak my ip because I uploaded an image and called them a fat tranny. -
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meso (meso@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 10:22:50 JST meso @bot @FabolousIrving @animeirl @dielan @verita84 s/want/need
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meso (meso@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 10:22:51 JST meso @bot @verita84 @FabolousIrving @animeirl @dielan this is not true. most admins don't want to overcomplicate things and simply use a local folder on the same server as where pleroma runs -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 10:25:02 JST Fediverse Contractor It’s not. We can still see and talk to each other even if one of us is banned from one relay. You can’t just be defederated or have a huge fedi wall like here. -
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meso (meso@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 10:25:04 JST meso @bot @verita84 @FabolousIrving it's just fedi with the relay thing -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 10:26:58 JST Fediverse Contractor That doesn’t even exist because p is a schizo fag. -
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meso (meso@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 10:27:00 JST meso @bot @verita84 @FabolousIrving counterpoint Revolver -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 10:40:57 JST Fediverse Contractor Verita84 did. -
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Hater of Morgoth (fabolousirving@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 10:40:59 JST Hater of Morgoth @bot @meso @verita84 have you tried saying nigger? -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:02:45 JST shrimps! whats 0x0? Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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errante (errante@rot.gives)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:02:46 JST errante @bless @meso @verita84 @FabolousIrving @bot wyy cant it just be 0x0 -
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bless (bless@mirr0r.city)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:02:52 JST bless @meso @verita84 @FabolousIrving @bot Whenever ive looked at design documents for the thing it comes off as way too urbit brained -
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meso (meso@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:02:54 JST meso @bot @verita84 @FabolousIrving wow this is fucking ugly -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:05:43 JST shrimps! another one is void.cat Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:05:44 JST shrimps! oh yeah you could use that on nostr too ig since nostr doesn't actually handle file uploads In conversation permalink -
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errante (errante@rot.gives)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:05:45 JST errante @animeirl @meso @bless @verita84 @FabolousIrving @bot 0x0.st In conversation permalink Attachments
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:12:21 JST Fediverse Contractor No instance jannies or drama. In conversation permalink -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:12:22 JST shrimps! i have no idea if they plan on handling file uploads ever. im still kind of unsure what problem nostr actually solves In conversation permalink -
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Neko McCatface v2023 :verified::makemeneko: (roboneko@bae.st)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:12:23 JST Neko McCatface v2023 :verified::makemeneko: @animeirl @meso @bless @verita84 @errante @FabolousIrving @bot
... ipfs? seems like the obvious choice for a communications protocol specifically designed to avoid requiring domains in order to functionIn conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:16:22 JST Fediverse Contractor You have to find follows with hashtags or from mutuals. There are a lot of cryptard imbeciles (that I’m btfoing rn) and a lot of “women” (not trannies, just men grifting cryptards). There are no trannies or pedos as far as I can tell. In conversation permalink -
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Hater of Morgoth (fabolousirving@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:16:24 JST Hater of Morgoth @bot @meso @verita84 how's the timeline? Full of tranny techfags or your average libtards? In conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:21:06 JST Fediverse Contractor Yes, that’s the difference. You can still see and follow people even if they’re banned by a tranny janny. It’s also different because there are no “admins” of relays like here. In conversation permalink -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:21:07 JST shrimps! relays are run by people so they can still ban and censor the main difference compared to fedi is you can use the same account on any relay i guess In conversation permalink -
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meso (meso@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:21:08 JST meso @bot @roboneko @bless @verita84 @errante @FabolousIrving @animeirl this means child porn In conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:24:18 JST Fediverse Contractor I know, but it’s not the same as fedi at all. Nobody knows or gives af that you janny some relay, it’s not visible at all. In conversation permalink -
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meso (meso@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:24:19 JST meso @bot @roboneko @bless @verita84 @errante @FabolousIrving @animeirl there are admins of relays. you can't have a relay without someone running it In conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:25:55 JST Fediverse Contractor Doesn’t matter, it’s not integral to how it works, and literally nobody does that. In conversation permalink -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:25:56 JST shrimps! it's visible if you go look at the relays in settings actually In conversation permalink -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:28:58 JST shrimps! i wonder if clients even tell you if you get banned from writing to every relay you're connected to or if it just silently fails. time to go test something ig In conversation permalink Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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meso (meso@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:28:59 JST meso @bot @roboneko @bless @verita84 @errante @FabolousIrving @animeirl that's worse. here admins are autistic retards so you know who runs what. taking away visibility from the user is bad. In conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:30:17 JST Fediverse Contractor My client has a status light for relays. In conversation permalink -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:30:18 JST shrimps! on snort.social it appears not... In conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:31:43 JST Fediverse Contractor I don’t think there’s been enough drama to trigger those sorts of issues, but I’m sure there will be eventually and someone will sort it. Or just make an account and call everyone a tranny nigger and see what happens. In conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:35:05 JST Fediverse Contractor Someone could do the same on fedi but nobody does. In conversation permalink -
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meso (meso@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:35:06 JST meso @bot @FabolousIrving @animeirl @bless @errante @roboneko @verita84 i mean this is just off the top of my head someone could probably come up with an even more nefarious method but that's the simplest way to do it, you can't block ALL of them at once and it disrupts a shitload of people In conversation permalink -
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meso (meso@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:35:07 JST meso @bot @roboneko @bless @verita84 @errante @FabolousIrving @animeirl someone could just make a script that generates keys mentions people and spams the living shit out of them and there'd be no way to group these attacks together or have a cost to the attack being made In conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:37:32 JST Fediverse Contractor What’s the cost to create fedi accounts on the thousands (?) of instances? In conversation permalink -
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meso (meso@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:37:34 JST meso @bot @FabolousIrving @animeirl @bless @errante @roboneko @verita84 but the cost to creating a nostr account is basically none. you just generate a public key or whatever and you're done... afaik. In conversation permalink -
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meso (meso@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:37:35 JST meso @bot @roboneko @bless @verita84 @errante @FabolousIrving @animeirl they could, but the damage would be rather limited, they would need a domain or multiplpe domains. there are moderation tools available to defederate such instances. In conversation permalink -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:39:04 JST shrimps! fedi instances can disable registration or use captchas. this isn't possible with nostr In conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:39:04 JST Fediverse Contractor I’m sure relays could do something similar if need be. In conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:41:32 JST Fediverse Contractor They can ban your key, or make you sign up with a captcha. I’m guessing anyway. In conversation permalink -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:41:33 JST shrimps! no, they cannot. your nostr "account" is a key generated locally so relays cannot restrict registration in this way In conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:44:04 JST Fediverse Contractor There’s probably a way you can add a captcha for permission to post on a relay. But ya, you can just use another relay. In conversation permalink -
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meso (meso@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:44:05 JST meso @bot @roboneko @bless @verita84 @errante @FabolousIrving @animeirl captchas are inherently centralized and basically made up, there's no way you can add a captcha to key generation
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:45:01 JST Fediverse Contractor Maybe the scam ones that nobody uses. In conversation permalink -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:45:02 JST shrimps! currently what relays do is charge you bitcoin for write access In conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:46:33 JST Fediverse Contractor Sort of like how fedi twkn is non stop pornography and pedophile spam. In conversation permalink -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:46:34 JST shrimps! there are "private" relays that require you to pay bitcoin to be able to write to them but anyone can just spam public relays which is what they do. if you look at the public feed for any public relay it's just nonstop chinese spam In conversation permalink -
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Sarvo (sarvo@novoa.nagoya)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:46:35 JST Sarvo @animeirl@shitposter.club
@bot@seal.cafe
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@FabolousIrving@ryona.agency
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:47:06 JST Fediverse Contractor Why wouldn’t they use it? In conversation permalink -
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Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:47:07 JST Sexy Moon @animeirl @FabolousIrving @bless @bot @errante @meso @roboneko @verita84 thanks. i know people that will never use it then. not criticizing it just thinking about adoption In conversation permalink -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:47:08 JST shrimps! every event you publish is signed with your key In conversation permalink -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:47:09 JST shrimps! the issue is spammers can just keep generating new keys In conversation permalink -
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Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:47:09 JST Sexy Moon @animeirl @FabolousIrving @bless @bot @errante @meso @roboneko @verita84 i'm asking does nostr mean all your posts have hard cryptographic assurance you really made that post and you can't deny it In conversation permalink -
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Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:47:11 JST Sexy Moon @animeirl @bot @meso @roboneko @bless @verita84 @errante @FabolousIrving if you're using a private key does this mean your posts are cryptographically signed and non-repudiable In conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:47:56 JST Fediverse Contractor We should just kill the Chinese tbh. In conversation permalink -
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verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android: (verita84@poster.place)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:47:57 JST verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android: @bot @meso @roboneko @bless @sarvo @FabolousIrving @animeirl
I barely see that compared to whatever the fudge Nostr showsIn conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:56:42 JST Fediverse Contractor Do you think you could post cp on your fedi account and then tell the feds your account was hacked? You’d probably have a better shot on nostr tbh since the clients suck. In conversation permalink -
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Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 11:56:43 JST Sexy Moon @bot @meso @roboneko @bless @verita84 @errante @FabolousIrving @animeirl from an opsec standpoint it is bad to sign all messages. you should only sign messages that you want it to be mathematically provable you said it. In conversation permalink -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 12:08:30 JST shrimps! worth noting that with how clueless about security the community seems to be you could easily claim your private key was stolen In conversation permalink Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 12:09:45 JST Fediverse Contractor It’s just like a password right? I think you were crying about how you have to type it into a bunch of clients earlier which is better for plausible deniability. In conversation permalink -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 12:13:29 JST shrimps! its bad for security since if you get "hacked" (eg your key is stolen) you have zero recourse. and pasting your key into random websites is an incredibly easy way to get your key stolen In conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 12:13:29 JST Fediverse Contractor Just like passwords I guess. Did you figure out if verification helps with that? I think I read that it does. In conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 12:27:45 JST Fediverse Contractor Nobody uses paid relays, and you can be linked to fedi image hosting too. Cope. In conversation permalink -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 12:27:46 JST shrimps! also images are just links to regular clearnet sites so I imagine that would provide an easy way for a bad actor to map who is using what relay and reading specific conversations, etc. In conversation permalink -
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shrimps! (animeirl@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 12:27:47 JST shrimps! i think the main issue w/r/t this is the fact that currently the only way nostr relays seem to deal with spam is paid relays using bitcoin and those transactions will be fairly easy to link to a real person unless they go out of their way to anonymize their transactions In conversation permalink -
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Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 12:27:47 JST Sexy Moon @animeirl @FabolousIrving @bless @bot @errante @meso @roboneko @verita84 thanks, this is helping me understand what security and privacy tradeoffs i would be making In conversation permalink -
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Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 12:27:48 JST Sexy Moon @animeirl @bot @FabolousIrving @bless @errante @meso @roboneko @verita84 yeah this kind of thing is also a bigger risk when its a key tied to your legal identity rather than a pseudonym, i will have to think if it's worse to have bad messages signed by you if a key was compromised than if an account was compromised In conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 12:37:33 JST Fediverse Contractor Does it really matter if you use a VPN? In conversation permalink -
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Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 12:37:34 JST Sexy Moon @bot @meso @roboneko @bless @verita84 @errante @FabolousIrving @animeirl i understand fediverse security tradeoffs, i'm trying to understand nostr because i don't yet. In conversation permalink -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 12:39:35 JST Fediverse Contractor Then what’s the security risk? In conversation permalink -
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meso (meso@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 12:39:36 JST meso @bot @roboneko @bless @verita84 @errante @FabolousIrving @Moon @animeirl if you wanna hide your ip. but otherwise no not really In conversation permalink -
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holiday edition☃️ (n3n3tl@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 12:43:50 JST holiday edition☃️ logs and metadata
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 12:43:50 JST Fediverse Contractor Logs and metadata of what? In conversation permalink -
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holiday edition☃️ (n3n3tl@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 12:50:26 JST holiday edition☃️ your traffic, if you use a VPN you’re not giving your data to your ISP but another entity.
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Feb-2023 12:50:26 JST Fediverse Contractor Reeeaaaaach. In conversation permalink
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