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   ??? 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving: (nyx@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 15:53:51 JST ??? 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving:
   becoming increasingly convinced that any hyper-online schizo meme politics or esotericism or whatever is absolutely doomed to quickly burn out and fail unless it has a solid foundation of people in the real world who are doing something related to it
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 15:53:40 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     Are you trolling with this reddit bit? I genuinely can’t tell.
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     Sexypink (sexypink@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 15:53:45 JST Sexypink

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     Hmm that really makes me wonder. Bc I'm looking at it this way. So there's two types of ppl, you have ppl on reddit who like to talk about and ask questions on certain things and topics. that causes interaction and engament because there is a specific 'thing' being talked about. Therefore making it easier to interact.
     
     With the fediverse, this one's gunna be a little tough for me yo explain bc I use reddit daily and rarely the fediverse because of the annoyances I mentioned above.
     
     the fediverse to me seems more aimless if you don't know what you like or what you address on here for. because instead of topics and communities, you can only follow -people- I like reddit bc its anonymous and about anything really, what I don't care about though is , -following- someone and then the only 'content' I get is random shit from what ever they are talking about that day
     
     does that make sense?
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     ??? 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving: (nyx@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 15:53:46 JST ??? 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving:

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     @Sexypink I've heard conflicting takes on this where some people say that they get more interaction on here, or at least it's more substantial and not just like, people liking posts or engaging in whatever is the inane discourse of the day
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     Sexypink (sexypink@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 15:53:47 JST Sexypink

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     Interesting take. For me, the fediverse is like crickets.
     
     Rarely do I get interaction which sucks because I'm trying to get away from reddit. not to mention my BIGGEST fucking annoyance with the fediverse.
     
     There.is.no.context.
     
     it drives me bat shit crazy with all these conversations and replies that make no sense.
     
     especially with the comments being first before the actual post?
     
     so fucking confusing
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     erin (erin@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 15:53:49 JST erin

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     @nyx yeah here it is
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     ??? 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving: (nyx@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 15:53:49 JST ??? 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving:

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     @erin honestly things have turned out a lot better than I thought they were going to. there was a slump from like, mid-2021 to mid-2022 (roughly speaking) where it felt like it was basically just me posting here and I was considering whether or not to just make a single-user instance. but some people have stuck with it and the whole twitter situation certainly helped
     
     but I also think that these things can't survive off edginess or fighting people online alone. there was some early drama way back over some inane discourse about like transmisogyny or something, and a lot of people jumped in on arguing with people about it, but in retrospect it just bothers me because it's the lowest common denominator of posting that has been conditioned into people who are used to being in an environment like twitter that is essentially a prison where you need to join a gang and have other people to back you up when you get into fights with people.
     
     I think there's value to these sorts of things in moderation, because one of the easiest ways to create cohesion in a group is by having a common enemy, but there needs to be more substance to it than that for it to not fall apart once the common enemy either is no longer there or the group implodes from sheer resentment and hostility and creating a stressful environment. the only reason twitter is able to persist like that is because it's much harder to leave twitter, where everyone else already is and you can just find a new clique if you want, than on fedi
     
     I also think that the whole premise of there being any kinds of 'communities' around g/acc has always been flawed because it was never meant to be that. it's just a piece of writing that has nothing actionable associated with it whatsoever, by design in fact, beyond contributing to the conversation. but I have rarely seen people do that, and I guess that's because I personally have the background of being a philosophy person and then was in circles in acctwitter where I had already been used to the idea of being around people who are actively engaging with theory by reading it and talking about it and writing their own original works. but that unsurprisingly isn't enough to form anything around, because not a lot of people can or want to engage with things in that way, because not everyone has that same skillset or even necessarily the same interests beyond discovering some random piece of writing that they vibe with
     
     this is why g/acc was always supposed to be followed up by Neo-Amazonia, which is supposed to be a suggestion for what to do, and how to build solid real-world foundations to keep the meta-level networked communications grounded in people having actual skin in the game in the real world where they have other people around to hold them accountable and keep them engaged in doing literally anything productive and interesting. and it's why I've over time gravitated towards trying to cultivate a certain vibe of posting on xnfm, because ultimately what is there to do productively with the format of social media if not try to negate the core ideas of it and create new posting languages
     
     anyway, I'm trying to tell myself that the best is yet to come, because if the magik has left me then I don't really have anything else to go back to anyways like a lot of other people who were once overly invested in these kinds of circles and then heel-turned into their normie cope arcs. or rather because the idea of giving up on the lines of flight I've been on is just intolerable and not a life worth living
     
     (mfw this is unironically some thoughts I want to eventually write into a piece discussing the Parler Xenofemme thing)
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     erin (erin@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Thursday, 16-Feb-2023 15:53:50 JST erin

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     @nyx oh yeah i was thinking about this last night lemme get the screenshot
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 17-Feb-2023 02:00:05 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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     what you want are websites, or perhaps a wiki - not social media with actual human beings
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     ??? 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving: (nyx@social.xenofem.me)'s status on Friday, 17-Feb-2023 02:00:07 JST ??? 妛彁 :xf_nyxsigil: :xf_nyxdisapproving:

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     @Sexypink it makes sense and honestly ime a big part of the problem is that the fediverse is still fairly limited in terms of what types of people are on here and what they talk about. it's gotten better I think but there's still less of a critical mass of a lot of different people with diverse interests talking about things. I guess hashtags are meant to be kind of like the equivalent of a subreddit for tracking certain topics but I rarely see people actually use hashtags for stuff like that
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     Sexypink (sexypink@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Friday, 17-Feb-2023 02:00:07 JST Sexypink

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     Yea i think so too. I think that might be what I don't like about the fediverse. I don't want or care about following people, I want to see and talk about the content. So when I'm on here scrolling the questions I'm always asking myself is "What? Why? What are they talking about?" Then I have to commit to reading that entire post and comment thread to make sense of it. I feel like the that's where the disconnect is at least with me.