I never understand what the fuck people are talking about when they want a website to expand to full width. You wouldn’t like it if it did that.
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 09:48:08 JST Alex Gleason -
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 09:49:04 JST Fediverse Contractor Can we see an example of full width soapbox? -
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 09:51:16 JST Alex Gleason @bot Good luck reading text. There’s a reason we limit line length: https://practicaltypography.com/line-length.html
You wouldn’t read the Bible on one line.
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 09:52:01 JST Alex Gleason @Salastil BUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN. Does it mean you put a giant gap in the middle of the screen between the sidebar and the main content? Or does it mean you stretch the content so unbelievably wide that it becomes illegible?
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Salastil (salastil@pleroma.salastil.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 09:52:02 JST Salastil @alex I like it when it expands to the full width. -
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anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 09:53:47 JST anime graf mays ?️? @Salastil @alex soapbox looks like literal ass when it's stretched tbh you can see what it would look like if you change the size of the viewport by shrinking the window size Alex Gleason likes this. -
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teknomunk (teknomunk@apogee.polaris-1.work)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 09:53:56 JST teknomunk @alex Sometimes telling people this isn't enough.
You have to make them use so they learn first hand what it would be like.Alex Gleason likes this. -
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 09:58:52 JST Alex Gleason @redstarfish We’ll bend over backwards to ensure we support every whim and demand of users no matter how unreasonable, and then when our software breaks because of it users will ask us why it’s broken.
That’s basically the philosophy of a lot of unusable FOSS projects. The great thing about open source is that users can maintain their OWN unreasonable demands.
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Abhiseck Paira :gnu: :gnuhurd: (redstarfish@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 09:58:54 JST Abhiseck Paira :gnu: :gnuhurd: Let the user decide :-)
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Parker Banks (parker@pl.psion.co)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 09:59:03 JST Parker Banks @redstarfish @alex The user is usually wrong. Alex Gleason likes this. -
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14.88:hacker_n: :hacker_i: :hacker_g: :hacker_g: :hacker_a: :hacker_w: :hacker_a: :hacker_t: :hacker_t: :hacker_s: (14point88niggawatts@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 09:59:11 JST 14.88:hacker_n: :hacker_i: :hacker_g: :hacker_g: :hacker_a: :hacker_w: :hacker_a: :hacker_t: :hacker_t: :hacker_s: @alex @Salastil I use an ultra wide on my main display, any ridiculous wide shit looks terrible. The format being used on your site is great. Fuck the haters. Alex Gleason likes this. -
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 09:59:27 JST Alex Gleason @Salastil For completion, here it is on an ultrawide.
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 09:59:30 JST Fediverse Contractor It wouldn’t look good if it was inconsistent. -
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realcaseyrollins ✝️ (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 09:59:31 JST realcaseyrollins ✝️ Interesting. Couldn’t increasing the font size help?
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 10:01:23 JST Alex Gleason @realcaseyrollins @bot Yes. There should be 45–90 characters per line, so increasing the font size tremendously would make it legible again, but you’d have to take a few steps back from your screen. And you wouldn’t be able to see as much content at once.
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Matty (matty@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 10:02:03 JST Matty That is terrible Alex Gleason likes this. -
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msilvya (msilvya@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 10:05:59 JST msilvya @alex @Salastil Looks like this on my wide screen.
I guess they’re talking about ‘Real estate screen space’ and one of those ‘responsive’ stuff.
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 10:05:59 JST Alex Gleason @msilvya @Salastil Looks great. The content is centered and legible.
People can always shrink the window and put something else next to it.
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msilvya (msilvya@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 10:06:44 JST msilvya Alex Gleason likes this. -
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realcaseyrollins ✝️ (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 10:09:02 JST realcaseyrollins ✝️ It isn’t as though font sizes are completely ubiquitous across #Soapbox, to be fair
But you’re right, all the fonts should be of a relatively similar size
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Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 10:09:56 JST Fediverse Contractor That slight difference makes sense (esp since threads don’t jump to the post you click on so it’s easier to find that way (rip)). -
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anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 10:15:52 JST anime graf mays ?️? @msilvya @alex @Salastil looks like shit ?? -
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 10:15:52 JST Alex Gleason @graf @msilvya @Salastil Those between-sizes could use some work for sure.
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msilvya (msilvya@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 10:15:53 JST msilvya @alex @Salastil Another view. If I split the screen using a screen splitter, the UI is responsive enough and makes ‘adjustments’ on its own.
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Salastil (salastil@pleroma.salastil.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 10:18:28 JST Salastil I just like it big. I have a standard sized monitor, and my nose isn't pressed to the screen, its a full arm length away so I can scan with my eyes the entire length of the monitor without moving my head. -
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 10:18:28 JST Alex Gleason @Salastil I tried to find a plaintext version of the Bible to demonstrate how crazy it is to read text that way, but I couldn’t even find one where they didn’t limit the line length: https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/10/pg10.txt
Even plaintext email clients often have an 80 column limit. Source code, too.
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Tyler (tyler@1611.social)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 10:19:06 JST Tyler I just want it to zoom in, I'm getting old and my eyeglass prescription is out of date Alex Gleason likes this. -
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 10:19:58 JST Alex Gleason @Salastil The reason line length matters, is because when lines are too long, it’s difficult to find where the next line is after scanning your eyes back to the left side.
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Abhiseck Paira :gnu: :gnuhurd: (redstarfish@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 10:20:11 JST Abhiseck Paira :gnu: :gnuhurd: Doesn't matter! You don't have to support the feature yourself. Just make it free software, so that they can do it themselves if they wanted to.
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 10:24:41 JST Alex Gleason @Salastil It depends on the context for sure. That document is formatted for a very specific screen size, and it might even be better to truncate and pan right in that case.
I’m talking about reading blocks of text. Wikipedia is a better thing to compare.
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Salastil (salastil@pleroma.salastil.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 10:24:42 JST Salastil I find this far harder to read than the full page. Guess I'm just retarded from the 1990s UI schemes. -
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anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 10:26:21 JST anime graf mays ?️? @alex @msilvya @Salastil tbh it looks perfect to me on 1080. that's what all my monitors are set to, ThinkPad too
wish we had a universal resolution and that 1366x768 panels weren't the norm for budget laptops normies buyAlex Gleason likes this. -
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smug@smuganimeavatar.xyz's status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 10:27:47 JST smug It’s funny, half-screen of 1080p works better than fullscreen 1080p because the text wraps weirdly on fullscreen. (left is half-screen, right is fullscreen, half-screen uses the real estate better)
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anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 10:27:47 JST anime graf mays ?️? @smug @alex @msilvya @Salastil I prefer the one on the right tbh Alex Gleason likes this. -
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 10:28:46 JST Alex Gleason @graf @smug @msilvya @Salastil This. To demonstrate why, try to read this wall of text at both sizes:
Spiced peppermint blast lemonade zest miso dressing Italian linguine puttanesca apples heat lingonberry lavender lemonade green papaya salad walnut mushroom tart blueberry chia seed jam roasted butternut squash refreshing cucumber splash avocado basil pesto macadamia nut cookies hearts of palm. Dark chocolate morning smoothie bowl cauliflower artichoke hearts naga viper cilantro lime vinaigrette four-layer cool coconut rice scotch bonnet pepper one bowl chai tea couscous citrusy alfalfa sprouts red pepper almonds sweet potato seitan chili pepper avocado dressing drizzle vine tomatoes. Cookies portobello mushrooms mediterranean Sicilian pistachio pesto seasonal simmer chocolate peanut butter dip raspberries overflowing ultra creamy avocado pesto coconut milk kimchi green tea lime hemp seeds sparkling pomegranate punch appetizer asian pear.
Blackberries matcha mushroom risotto sleepy morning tea picnic salad Thai basil curry lentils cherry bomb earl grey latte winter. Walnut pesto tart kung pao pepper hearty dill peppermint jalapeño cherries burritos crispy iceberg lettuce Southern Italian strawberry mango smoothie peanut butter.
Banana bread pasta dessert bruschetta spiced pumpkin chili sesame soba noodles cilantro crunchy Bulgarian carrot peach strawberry mango banana bread butternut mix guacamole roasted peanuts summer fruit salad eating together figs. Tofu blueberries green onions shiitake mushrooms red lentil curry Indian spiced tahini drizzle seeds edamame hummus blood orange smash coconut sugar tempeh red amazon pepper parsley roasted brussel sprouts strawberry spinach salad apple vinaigrette basmati cool cucumbers banh mi salad rolls garlic sriracha noodles oranges pomegranate mint lime taco salsa.
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msilvya (msilvya@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 10:44:21 JST msilvya @graf @alex @Salastil So I used the screen splitter with OnlyFans and Twitter - UI is similar to Soapbox. Only difference is the menu items on the left are displayed as icons (without the text) as opposed to Soapbox, which shows icons and text (see red arrows).
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anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 10:44:22 JST anime graf mays ?️? @alex @msilvya @Salastil @smug I enabled developer mode and changed my minimum width so my resolution is much smaller than a standard s21 ultra so I'm cheating ? -
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LucasGray (lucasgray@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 12:00:39 JST LucasGray @alex @Salastil Nah, you make the posts/results come down masonry style.
Made this image edit to show a friend some time ago.Alex Gleason likes this. -
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 12:02:44 JST Alex Gleason @Salastil @LucasGray It works better for images. Not so much for posts.
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Salastil (salastil@pleroma.salastil.com)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Feb-2023 12:02:45 JST Salastil @LucasGray @alex I'd sooner have multiple timelines than have shit populating at random across the screen. Alex Gleason likes this.
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