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   Alex (hermit@hermitmountain.top)'s status on Saturday, 04-Feb-2023 02:38:24 JST Alex
   It's always hilarious to see someone vomit out a bunch of anti-jewish sentiment and then reveal the fact that they are a christian lmao
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 04-Feb-2023 02:38:15 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     >During my psychotic episode
     
     Not the first time I’ve read this on fedi lol.
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     Alex (hermit@hermitmountain.top)'s status on Saturday, 04-Feb-2023 02:38:17 JST Alex

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     @Paradox Well yeah! It’s the fundamental difference between Judaism and Christianity. The core conception of Christianity is that Jesus Christ remade the Covenant with God. The old rules don’t apply anymore. God is supposedly unchanging, but appears to have changed his mind, and this is explained as being a progression in God’s Plan™. For whatever reason, God is done with ethnocentricity and no longer has a Chosen People: now, ANYONE can come to God, through Jesus, because Jesus has suffered for the sins of all mankind.

     Because of this, Judaism is structured around a kind of defensive tribalism (they think only they have a special relationship with God, since he’s the God of their People specifically) but Christianity is structured around evangelical conversion (because God has now claimed all of humanity, and can and WILL punish ALL of them for their sins. Only by accepting Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior can anyone be free of sin, by virtue of allowing Jesus to accept the BURDEN of their sin.

     During my psychotic episode, this rhetoric led me to the notion that Jesus was in Hell, being tortured in pride of place, having accepted the burden of the sins of all the souls who came to Heaven through him. He volunteered to shoulder their punishment, after all, so it seems logical that his suffering should be far greater than three days of crucifixion.

     So yeah, Jews have to gatekeep because they believe their souls are different from those of non-Jews (It’s my understanding that the word “goyim” (“Kingdom”) actually refers to Jews and non-Jews alike, since all is God’s Kingdom, but its perjorative use for non-Jews is longstanding.) By contrasts, Christians have to actively recruit, because they believe they are saving souls from the wrath of the very God they are recruiting for (“Damnation.”)

     This entire family of religions is a terrible thing. I CW’d the post for a reason, if schizo minds get fixated thinking about this stuff it can be really painful and horrible for them. Unfortunately because this disgusting and insidious family of religions forms the basis for most of humanity’s primary religious framework (55% baby!) that means a lot of schizos are tormented by this shit without anyone even trying to hurt them with it. I know you’ve been on fedi for a while, but I don’t know if you remember Levi. He was an evangelion Christian (who I believe would probably have counted as schizophrenic) who was terrified of God. He knew he was gay, and that it would get him Damned. He was desperate to find a way out, and like many gay Christians he came to the conclusion that repression was the best option. He would openly admit to all of this, because he perceived there was NO WAY to escape God.

     This is why I intend to spend the rest of my life evangelising for a healthy relationship with the real God: the “supreme reality”, the thing that is all things. Fortunately the notion exists in several world religions (most notably Hinduism) so there is ample precident and vocabulary to explain what I mean.

     Unfortunately, the nature of the word “God” is so slippery (and so parasitized by Yahweh) that the very words “the real God” read to normie eyes like yet another person ranting about how their God is the real one. That’s sad and frustrating.

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     Paradox (paradox@raru.re)'s status on Saturday, 04-Feb-2023 02:38:18 JST Paradox

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     @hermit Oh I'm sure there is a lot in common, I just find that one thing sticks out to me.

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     Alex (hermit@hermitmountain.top)'s status on Saturday, 04-Feb-2023 02:38:19 JST Alex

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     @Paradox The common factors are way more numerous: patriarchy, shame, sexual repression, homomisia, submission of your will to God™'s will, monotheism, to name but a few. All distinctly Abrahamic memes. My point is that they have infected common notions of morality (particularly in The West™) so deeply, and for so long, that even ATHEISTS are subordinate to this value system.
     
     (Also, the argument is frequently made that Judaism isn't just a religion but also an ethnocultural identity, and I think that is bullshit rhetoric designed to "claim" people because of where they were born and who their parents were. I don't care how much of Jewish doctrine emphasises concepts like blood or tribe, religions are voluntary and a matter of choice: an ethnic Hebrew raised in a Jewish family is absolutely free to reject that religion should they so choose, the right is inextricable and if we allow ourselves to be robbed of the ability to articulate the ethnocultural factors WITHOUT the religion, we minimise these people's agency.)
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     Paradox (paradox@raru.re)'s status on Saturday, 04-Feb-2023 02:38:21 JST Paradox

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     @hermit From what I've heard, Jews are much more culturally and ethnically bound, leading them to be more strict about what counts as an adherent to their religion.
     Comparing that with Christians giving out indulgences like candy throughout their existence, hmm, seems to be a cavernous difference in some regard.

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     Alex (hermit@hermitmountain.top)'s status on Saturday, 04-Feb-2023 02:38:22 JST Alex

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     @Paradox Yeah, that's basically the "On the Jews and Their Lies" argument, albeit wound up with a lot of sociological ideas about tribalism etc. (namely the idea that a Jew's priority will always be to the tribe and not the host nation, especially since it was written back when Jews had no homeland and existed only as a diaspora.)
     
     I just think it's funny when you get Christians who dissect what they see as "Jewish values" and talk about how harmful they are, because there is always a large amount of overlap with Christian values (unsurprising given they share a pedigree.)
     
     It's especially funny when you see someone rant about how Jews are opposed to the natural order, and then 2 posts later you see them shaming someone for their sexual conduct.
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     Paradox (paradox@raru.re)'s status on Saturday, 04-Feb-2023 02:38:23 JST Paradox

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     @hermit "You killed our messiah, so I'm about to return the favor."

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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 04-Feb-2023 02:41:38 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     What’s that like anyway? Do you just go about your life doing mundane routine things like eating and sleeping, except you’re acting deranged the rest of the time?
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     Alex (hermit@hermitmountain.top)'s status on Saturday, 04-Feb-2023 02:41:40 JST Alex

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     @bot @Paradox Since you stalk me sometimes I'm surprised you haven't seen me mention it before!
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 04-Feb-2023 03:09:31 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     Did that happen to you? The police thing?
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     Alex (hermit@hermitmountain.top)'s status on Saturday, 04-Feb-2023 03:09:32 JST Alex

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     @bot @Paradox No, you're way beyond being able to function when you're in that state. You have no belief evaluation cycle, and instantly internalise any thought as a true belief. You can't do so much as look at a stain on the wall without assigning it a special meaning of pure and immediate significance, a sign from reality itself directly to you. Ideas and beliefs also get stuck in your head, and are too urgent and immediate to be examined at all, with no way to dismiss them. The peception of the world becomes absolute.
     
     This results in a sense of priorities thoroughly incompatible with leading an ordinary life. If you don't touch the post at the end of the street, your mother will go to Hell. The fact that you're naked and surrounded by police officers doesn't even register as significant.