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   Anil Dash (anildash@me.dm)'s status on Thursday, 26-Jan-2023 11:28:31 JST Anil Dash

   In roughly the past half-decade, Microsoft went from nowhere to overwhelming dominance of text editors with VSCode, ownership of majority of code hosting (and open source dev) with GitHub, ownership of the dependency stack used by most devs with npm, control over the most popular single language with TypeScript, and is trying to position copilot and ChatGPT as inevitable parts of the future dev process. Nothing negative for the ecosystem will come of this, as the last half century teaches us.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 26-Jan-2023 11:28:30 JST 翠星石

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     @colinsmatt11 >You forgot "WSL" as a development environment
     The thing is, "WSL1" didn't have Linux in it, it has GNU though, so the correct name for that is WSG I guess?
     
     >which is used by a significant number of people.
     It was ~200,000 last time I checked, which is a lot, but not a significant number compared to the number of used m$ has.
     
     There is "WSL2", which are VM's of either GNU/Linux or BusyBox/Linux, but that's only available on "windows 11".
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     MattZ (colinsmatt11@gleasonator.com)'s status on Thursday, 26-Jan-2023 11:28:31 JST MattZ

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     @anildash You forgot WSL as a development environment, which is used by a significant number of people.
     And Azure where code in deployed, being the most popular cloud (clown) option after AWS
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 26-Jan-2023 11:32:01 JST 翠星石

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     @anildash Yes, microsoft has absolutely dominated "open source" developers, as the "open source" camp is mostly about pandering to corporations.
     
     No matter how hard they try, they will never dominate free software developers, as we are not interested in using any offered proprietary software, no matter how convenient it is.
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     Dave Lane :flag_tino: 🇳🇿 (lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Thursday, 26-Jan-2023 11:37:38 JST Dave Lane :flag_tino: 🇳🇿

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     • Michael Engard

     @michael @anildash true - especially for people in the US, it appears (the rest of us aren't quite as completely pwned). Have you see this? https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/10/technology/techs-frightful-five-theyve-got-us.html It's why I tend to refer to the #FrightfulFive - that we've allowed ourselves to get to this point is pretty terrifying. Here in Aotearoa NZ, the FF have a stranglehold on our gov't IT systems. They could literally shut the country down if they thought we were misbehaving: https://davelane.nz/mshostage Escape is a matter of principle.

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     Michael Engard (michael@social.engard.me)'s status on Thursday, 26-Jan-2023 11:37:58 JST Michael Engard

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     • Dave Lane :flag_tino: 🇳🇿

     @lightweight @anildash I mean, I’ve also got a MacBook and an iPhone. And a Visa credit card and Amazon Prime. I’d love to live life without any toxic corporate relationships, but it’s easier said than done. I feel like the trick is knowing which mass systems collapses are worth anticipating and preparing for.

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     Dave Lane :flag_tino: 🇳🇿 (lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Thursday, 26-Jan-2023 11:37:59 JST Dave Lane :flag_tino: 🇳🇿

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     • Michael Engard

     @michael @anildash you can be entirely confident of that. They're not an ally. I've never even tried VSCode nor C# just because they've got MSFT taint on them. Haven't regretted their absence from my life one bit.

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     Michael Engard (michael@social.engard.me)'s status on Thursday, 26-Jan-2023 11:38:05 JST Michael Engard

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     @anildash It’s so frustrating, because I genuinely love a whole bunch of those tools—I practically live in VS Code—but I can’t ignore the little voice in my head that knows they’ll all betray me sooner or later.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 26-Jan-2023 11:38:05 JST 翠星石

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     • Dave Lane :flag_tino: 🇳🇿
     @lightweight >I've never owned an Apple product
     That's the same for all of "Apples" used - you don't own the product, it owns you.
     
     >Shifted off Github to my own Gitlabs.
     Gitlab is a proprietary trick - even the community edition contains proprietary JavaScript.
     Any free software git hosting software works fine, but I like cgit myself.
     
     >I have a Facebook account
     I don't myself.
     Sadly, most used still on facebook seem to be too far gone.
     
     >Still use Google Maps (alongside OpenStreetMap.org)
     Why?
     Osmand+ and OpenStreetMap.org are adequate replacements to such proprietary software: https://fdroid.org/en/packages/net.osmand.plus/
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     Dave Lane :flag_tino: 🇳🇿 (lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Thursday, 26-Jan-2023 11:38:06 JST Dave Lane :flag_tino: 🇳🇿

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     • Michael Engard

     @michael @anildash for the record, I've managed to divorce myself from just about all of the #FrightfulFive. I've never owned an Apple product, and use zero Microsoft anything, even closing my LinkedIn acct. Shifted off Github to my own Gitlabs. Don't use AWS or use Amazon. I have a Facebook account, but mostly use it to encourage people to move to the #Fediverse... I use LineageOS for my mobile devices & interactions with Google. Still use Google Maps (alongside OpenStreetMap.org). That's it.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 26-Jan-2023 12:05:37 JST 翠星石

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     • Dave Lane :flag_tino: 🇳🇿
     @lightweight >coordinating public transport trips, Google Maps is quite crucial at the moment
     This software is excellent at handing public transport trips: https://fdroid.org/en/packages/de.schildbach.oeffi/
     
     It doesn't look like New Zealand public transport is supported - I guess that needs to be added.
     
     >I only use non-#FOSS if there's nothing viable in that space
     You only used non-gratis, source-available software, if there's nothing viable in that space?
     
     
     I tend to just find other way to do things if there's only proprietary software that can do something, as I value my freedom above convenience.
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     Dave Lane :flag_tino: 🇳🇿 (lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Thursday, 26-Jan-2023 12:05:38 JST Dave Lane :flag_tino: 🇳🇿

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     @Suiseiseki thanks for keeping me honest. ? I'm not overly happy with Gitlab and their open core model. Looking at moving to Forgejo, but haven't done it yet. I do like OSMAnd+, and use it a lot, but when it comes to finding businesses and coordinating public transport trips, Google Maps is quite crucial at the moment. I only use non-#FOSS if there's nothing viable in that space... and I'm willing to manage quite a bit of inconvenience to do so... 1/2

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     pettter (pettter@mastodon.acc.umu.se)'s status on Thursday, 26-Jan-2023 19:24:50 JST pettter

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     @anildash

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     leighelse{} (leighelse@mastodon.nz)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 06:54:41 JST leighelse{}

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     • Michael Engard

     @lightweight @michael @anildash This is me too. I do have a Mac specifically for music-making, because collaborating with others requires licensed plugins that aren't available on Linux. To balance that I have a #SailfishOS phone and don't use Google maps.

     And my quality of life is in no way diminished by these choices.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 06:54:41 JST 翠星石

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     • leighelse{}
     @leighelse >collaborating with others requires licensed plugins that aren't available on Linux
     I think "proprietary malware" goes there instead of "licensed".
     Why would a kernel have anything to do with music plugins?
     
     Ardour is available for GNU/Linux and makes music just fine, but that would require escaping lock-in and convincing others to do so.
     
     >To balance that
     I'm sorry, choosing not to use certain other proprietary malware doesn't balance out and negate the proprietaryness of the proprietary malware you're using.
     
     >my quality of life is in no way diminished by these choices.
     You're running malware and you don't have freedom, so yes your quality of life is diminished: https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-apple.en.html
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     Wrongthink (wrongthink@cdrom.tokyo)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2023 15:46:04 JST Wrongthink

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     • leighelse{}

     @Suiseiseki @leighelse

     my quality of life is in no way diminished by these choices.

     The chain of realization needed to recognize how proprietary malware harms one’s quality of life is too nuanced and intricate for normoids to comprehend. Also, it is harmful to those around them as well. Like smoking.

     The herd’s retarded group consensus forces malware onto those of us who choose note to “smoke”.