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LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jan-2023 22:43:01 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 -
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kallusti (kallisti@refusal.llc)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jan-2023 22:42:37 JST kallusti @NEETzsche @meso @Nelenese @fuggy ooooh, i know why @bot calls you fat now - you dont see the benefit of exercise :^) Fediverse Contractor likes this. -
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NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jan-2023 22:42:38 JST NEETzsche Why do I care about foot distance when I own a car and the infrastructure in my region is designed to be used by people who own cars? Anyway the distance is 2mi.
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meso (meso@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jan-2023 22:42:39 JST meso @NEETzsche @kallisti @Nelenese @fuggy they're 5min away for me too, but by foot. so how far away are they by foot -
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NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jan-2023 22:42:40 JST NEETzsche Europeans are correct to say that American suburbs basically require car ownership, but the complaints about time spent to get to a store are way overstated, exaggerated even. Earlier in this thread I pointed out that the nearest grocer is 5min away by car. Turns out, it’s the nearest two grocers, and they’re not situated in the same spot.
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NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jan-2023 22:42:41 JST NEETzsche Having a car is objectively better than not having a car. Having more living space is objectively better than having less living space. This is the hill Yurokeks have chosen to die on.
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meso (meso@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jan-2023 22:42:41 JST meso @NEETzsche @kallisti @Nelenese @fuggy I don't know what a Yurokek is, yeah having a car is objectively better but it's also objectively better to have a store close to you instead of in the middle of a city far away -
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meso (meso@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jan-2023 22:42:43 JST meso @NEETzsche @Nelenese @fuggy @kallisti don't know what the situation is in London but living in a house or apartment that is in walking distance to a store and in general the city is objetively better than living in a dystopian looking neighborhood completely detached from the rest of the city -
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NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jan-2023 22:42:44 JST NEETzsche I mean it’s objectively better than living in a 650 sq ft apartment and being directly reliant on a public transit infrastructure if you want to leave your neighborhood.
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meso (meso@asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jan-2023 22:42:44 JST meso @NEETzsche @kallisti @Nelenese @fuggy that is, if you can even buy a house. I'd rather live in a European-style neighborhood where stores are close and you don't *need* a car and only use it if you don't feel like walking that small distance or if you have to bring a lot of stuff over. you really don't rely on public transport, and in a lot of European countries it's sometimes lackluster. maybe in countries like the Netherlands where they have no space for cars but everywhere else not really. -
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kallusti (kallisti@refusal.llc)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jan-2023 22:42:45 JST kallusti @Nelenese @NEETzsche @fuggy that is actually horrific i didnt know it was that bad -
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Nel (nelenese@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jan-2023 22:42:46 JST Nel @kallisti @NEETzsche @fuggy that's why amazon or food delivery services literally have a strangehold on american life despite it being so young. if you wanted to eat out or buy something, just walk out the door and you'll be there in 10 minutes. for americans, it basically requires a car because it's literally dangerous to be outside and long distances opting most people to just simply have it come to them.
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kallusti (kallisti@refusal.llc)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jan-2023 22:42:47 JST kallusti @Nelenese @NEETzsche @fuggy ouch. ive a barber the same distance as the shop & pub, but they cant do my hair so i have to go into town typically, which is a 10min drive on a good day (or a 15min bike ride) -
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Nel (nelenese@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jan-2023 22:42:48 JST Nel @kallisti @NEETzsche @fuggy i remember having to go down a highway twice to get a haricut in american suburb. 40 minutes drive or over 1:20hr commute to simply get to the nearest commercial district to have the privilege to get $10 dollar haicut thanks to american urban sprawl. -
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kallusti (kallisti@refusal.llc)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jan-2023 22:42:49 JST kallusti @NEETzsche @fuggy how long do u have to drive to get to a store or food place from an american suburb? -
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NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jan-2023 22:42:50 JST NEETzsche >european suburbs are inferior to american suburbs
Didn’t even need to tell me, I just knew intuitively
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kallusti (kallisti@refusal.llc)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jan-2023 22:42:51 JST kallusti @NEETzsche @fuggy also european suburbs are structured quite a bit differently to american suburbs -
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kallusti (kallisti@refusal.llc)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jan-2023 22:42:52 JST kallusti @NEETzsche @fuggy most of europe doesnt have commie blocks :thinkMa: -
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NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jan-2023 22:42:53 JST NEETzsche >there’s a scale difference in europe
And we arrive right back at commie blocks vs suburbs. The whole point of suburbs is there isn’t that scale problem, but you’re also pretty close to a city.
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kallusti (kallisti@refusal.llc)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jan-2023 22:42:55 JST kallusti @NEETzsche @fuggy theres a scale difference in europe: theres a lot less europe than america and things are much denser & closer together -
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kallusti (kallisti@refusal.llc)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jan-2023 22:42:56 JST kallusti @fuggy @NEETzsche also re: public transport v cars, in most countries with decent infrastructure you can go anywhere in cities for a fraction of the cost. tokyo metro was super cheap, london underground is a decent price and def cheaper than a car in london. countries with good trains (not eastern europe! not eastern europe!) also tend to get you there faster than taking a car (esp to popular locations, try driving to london during commute hours vs by train) -
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kallusti (kallisti@refusal.llc)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jan-2023 22:42:57 JST kallusti @fuggy @NEETzsche thats the dumbest thing ive heard -
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fuggy@skippers-bin.com's status on Thursday, 19-Jan-2023 22:42:58 JST fuggy @NEETzsche@iddqd.social what I am basically saying is commie blocks are so shit they go full circle and they end up being kinda cool and hella vibes somehow
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fuggy@skippers-bin.com's status on Thursday, 19-Jan-2023 22:42:58 JST fuggy @NEETzsche@iddqd.social idk might just be me being a slavoboo though
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fuggy@skippers-bin.com's status on Thursday, 19-Jan-2023 22:42:59 JST fuggy @NEETzsche@iddqd.social Suburbs are more depressing than commie blocks to me somehow
But commie blocks are kinda a vibe doe but I get why people hate them -
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NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jan-2023 22:43:00 JST NEETzsche Suburbs > Commie Blocks
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⛧Airgetlam⛧ (alex@wreck.rocks)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 02:01:50 JST ⛧Airgetlam⛧ @Nelenese @NEETzsche @fuggy @kallisti If cities are the heart of society, then society deserves cardiac arrest. -
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Nel (nelenese@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 02:01:51 JST Nel @NEETzsche @kallisti @fuggy dude, Cities are the cultural and economic powerhouses and are the beating heart of a society; they ARE the epitomized representation of what society is and stands for. Trying to segregate yourself from the city is often naive, for you need to segregate from wider society. Every trend and value of a city will inevitably trickle down into your bubble even if you don't desire it, it's just a matter of when.
"My city is degenerate and full of crime" means that your society is degenerate and full of crime, you just choose to live far enough away from wider society to choose not to see it. And, as of 2023, America is a incredibly materialistic and soulless and spiritually dead country. -
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Nel (nelenese@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 02:01:52 JST Nel @NEETzsche @kallisti @fuggy >Yes, this is typical of city life globally.
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NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 02:01:52 JST NEETzsche This doesn’t even put a dent in my point. It vindicates it.
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NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 02:01:53 JST NEETzsche I lived in a high crime city in a 700sqft apartment while I was in college. Saw things like knife fights outside of my apartment routinely. Neighbors had various kinds of vermin and no matter how much I cleaned I kept having to deal with them. Yes, this is typical of city life globally.
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Nel (nelenese@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 02:01:54 JST Nel @kallisti @NEETzsche @fuggy I literally had people drive to parks have the privilege of *walking* to get themselves to exercise.
I remember walking from school back home since I didn't have a car nor a drivers license and wanted just to test the distances. 3 sodding hours just for a one-way trip, let alone commute. half the time there weren't any pavement/sidewalk so i had to trudge through wet grass, with chaffed thighs and a cramp due to all the height differences. -
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Nel (nelenese@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 02:01:54 JST Nel @kallisti @NEETzsche @fuggy oh yeah, i also had to walk through highway entrances and intersections of arterial roads since there weren't any crossings half the time which was technically illegal. I literally could've been hit and killed if someone drives a bit funny, which happens very often in my city.
imagine walking through (pic related) but there's no sidewalk half the time. -
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NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 02:02:18 JST NEETzsche “Bro your society begins and ends at cities bro dude bro trust me just one more apartment complex bro just one more commie block bro just one more bus stop just one more bro we just need one more.”
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⛧Airgetlam⛧ (alex@wreck.rocks)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 02:03:40 JST ⛧Airgetlam⛧ @kallisti @NEETzsche @Nelenese @fuggy No, I'm a different Alex -
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kallusti (kallisti@refusal.llc)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 02:03:41 JST kallusti @Alex @NEETzsche @Nelenese @fuggy is tjis the glussy -
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GNU Too (gnu2@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 10:49:06 JST GNU Too @Alex the difference between urban, suburban, and rural:
Suburban - your neighbors call the cops when they see you pee off the front porch Urban - your neighbors ignore you when they see you pee off the front porch Rural - your neighbors can't see you when you pee off the front porch
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