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   Hélène (helene@p.helene.moe)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Aug-2022 09:46:57 JST Hélène
   iceberg meme but it's about the pleroma codebase
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     Hélène (helene@p.helene.moe)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Aug-2022 09:47:47 JST Hélène

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     a miracle that any of it works
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     Tosti ? (tost@mk.toast.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Aug-2022 09:50:22 JST Tosti ?

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     @helene@p.helene.moe every codebase on earth

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     Normikoto (norm@misskey.biribiri.dev)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Aug-2022 09:50:44 JST Normikoto

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     @helene@p.helene.moe I think that goes for all of the fedi software out there really. Haven't seen one where things actually make sense code-wise.

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     Hélène (helene@p.helene.moe)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Aug-2022 09:51:13 JST Hélène

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     @norm mastodon and misskey make more sense for a lot of things
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     Normikoto (norm@misskey.biribiri.dev)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Aug-2022 09:51:15 JST Normikoto

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     @helene@p.helene.moe (Maybe honk, but I haven't looked at it so I can't tell)

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     Normikoto (norm@misskey.biribiri.dev)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Aug-2022 09:52:59 JST Normikoto

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     @helene@p.helene.moe wouldn't be so sure about misskey imo

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     Hélène (helene@p.helene.moe)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Aug-2022 09:54:13 JST Hélène

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     @norm i've read enough to conclude that misskey backend is both simpler and saner than mastodon and pleroma minus a few solvable quirks
     even though misskey has microblog baggage
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     Normikoto (norm@misskey.biribiri.dev)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Aug-2022 09:54:15 JST Normikoto

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     @helene@p.helene.moe foundkey was largely created because misskey has a lot of quirks and syulio didn't seem to interested in fixing those instead of adding in random new features.

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     Hélène (helene@p.helene.moe)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Aug-2022 09:55:37 JST Hélène

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     @tost i don't believe every codebase on earth has race conditions that can cause private keys for actors to be regenerated post-federation
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     Tosti ? (tost@mk.toast.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Aug-2022 09:56:46 JST Tosti ?

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     @helene@p.helene.moe excuse me what

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     Normikoto (norm@misskey.biribiri.dev)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Aug-2022 09:56:47 JST Normikoto

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     @helene@p.helene.moe yeah misskey is easier to understand for sure.

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     Hélène (helene@p.helene.moe)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Aug-2022 09:56:55 JST Hélène

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     @tost yes, you heard me right
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     Tosti ? (tost@mk.toast.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Aug-2022 09:57:26 JST Tosti ?

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     @helene@p.helene.moe bruh

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     inference (inference@plr.inferencium.net)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Aug-2022 09:59:22 JST inference

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     @helene Level 5: MRF policies
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     jbauer@merveilles.town's status on Wednesday, 24-Aug-2022 11:15:07 JST jbauer

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     @norm @helene Honk is perfect in every way.

     (I've never used it, but it's made by an OpenBSD dev and I have my biases)

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     puffaboo :puffhyper: (emilis@puff.place)'s status on Thursday, 25-Aug-2022 00:42:47 JST puffaboo :puffhyper:

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     @helene@p.helene.moe @tost@mk.toast.cafe i thought that was intended

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     johann150@genau.qwertqwefsday.eu's status on Thursday, 25-Aug-2022 01:03:52 JST Johann150

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     @tost@mk.toast.cafe @helene@p.helene.moe at this point i'm just glad that its not yet another misskey bug that nobody knows why it happens. :blobfoxlaughsweat:
     
     (see also: notes getting stuck at the top of the timeline, dropping mention tags when not directly replying to someone)

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     Hélène (helene@p.helene.moe)'s status on Thursday, 25-Aug-2022 01:05:18 JST Hélène

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     @Johann150 @tost there's something related to how misskey caches user keys though, if they get changed the public key cache doesn't get invalidated/updated
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     Tosti ? (tost@mk.toast.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 25-Aug-2022 01:06:03 JST Tosti ?

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     @Johann150@genau.qwertqwefsday.eu @helene@p.helene.moe it's also nice because it made me look into the receiving side of AP in msky so I know roughly where to look now :nko_3c:

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     johann150@genau.qwertqwefsday.eu's status on Thursday, 25-Aug-2022 01:07:05 JST Johann150

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     @helene@p.helene.moe @tost@mk.toast.cafe I've assumed (but never actually checked) that misskeys trust model for private keys is Trust On First Use so makes sense to me?

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     johann150@genau.qwertqwefsday.eu's status on Thursday, 25-Aug-2022 01:11:39 JST Johann150

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     @tost@mk.toast.cafe @helene@p.helene.moe ? i thought that was in the reading file, but feel free to extend it if you found something new ?

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     Hélène (helene@p.helene.moe)'s status on Thursday, 25-Aug-2022 01:13:18 JST Hélène

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     @Johann150 @tost yeah that's expected, and cache seems to be updated on update, nevermind, hmmm
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Thursday, 25-Aug-2022 01:14:47 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Normikoto
     @norm @helene Honk is fairly sane but… from what I remember there is also some weird things.
     
     (yeah, I went in honk's codebase, even sent few modifications to tedu)
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     Hélène (helene@p.helene.moe)'s status on Thursday, 25-Aug-2022 01:16:11 JST Hélène

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     • Tosti ?
     @lanodan @tost it's just because they're not generated on user creation actually
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Thursday, 25-Aug-2022 01:16:13 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @helene @tost I guess that might be linked to pleroma having key rotation, while the others just keep the same key forever (which is a terribly bad idea).
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     wakest ⁂ (liaizon@social.wake.st)'s status on Thursday, 25-Aug-2022 01:21:20 JST wakest ⁂

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     @jbauer @norm @helene I have been meaning to set up a test honk instance for a while after I realized how easy it was to customize the whole thing with css.

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