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   🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 28-Feb-2025 05:51:16 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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   @chris

   So maybe we were talking over eachother then, because this is what I was saying, ultimately musk jsut forwarded it to each department head, and this was disseminated through lists, he did not have their emails directly or even their identities.

   So back to my original point, the department head is the one in control of those lists, they are operated by their department. Ultimately if they refuse the order as the department head, they simply would not allow it to go out on the list in the first place. None of the employees in that department would get the email, and musk would have no idea who to fire as he doesnt have their direct emails or even identities, only the department head has that.

   Like I said, the government is compartmentalized.

   @adam

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   Radek Czajka (rcz@101010.pl)'s status on Sunday, 01-Dec-2024 04:19:36 JST Radek Czajka

   in reply to

   @rysiek

   I did ask you what your position was, but if I'm asked what my position is on some issue, and I just add without any justification: “and by the way, your position on this issue reminds me of nazism, I don't know, just a thought” — then that wouldn't be explaining my position on the issue, it would obviously just be smearing my opponents moral character. I wouldn't do it.

   I'm fine with continuing the conversation, and I'm absolutely fine with a slower pace, and I'll happily answer your specific question, but I do need to have something cleared up first.

   In this thread, you agreed with @eric that “what I'm doing is not civil”, and you contrasted it with “staying civil yourselves”. I take issue with that. Specifically, you pointed to ”discussing the living breathing person affected by this” as an example when discussing me allegedly being uncivil. But now you're also specifically asking me to go back to discussing the living breathing players. And you are specifically asking about the facts about these people which do, as we discussed, relate to their identities.

   So, can we set this record straight?

   Can we actually have a civil discussion — on both sides — about this issue? And can we, after all, have a civil discussion involving facts relating to identities of real people?