Notices by CEO of Anti-Clock Society (be@floss.social), page 3

@pettter @jgillman That guy, a liar?! NO WAY!

@ariadne oh this is hilarious: "JVP’s energetic proselytizing of this view – especially among other social justice groups -- has created a hostile environment for many progressive Jews."

JVP is why I can say I'm a Jew without feeling horribly ashamed for supporting genocide

@ariadne "the damage they wreak on efforts to enhance intergroup relations"

Zionists love to project what they do onto their critics.

https://droptheadl.org/

@josh @shauna @luis_in_brief @cwebber @root If this is communicated well, it could be better than "softening the blow". With a noncopyleft license (as was the case before with the Apache license), contributors and users have no guarantee that the maintainers won't turn the project proprietary in the future. A copyleft license with a CLA *can* provide that, if it's carefully considered.

@josh @shauna @luis_in_brief @cwebber @root Considering that there already is a Matrix Foundation set up, involving the foundation in some sort of legally binding agreement like the KDE Free Qt Foundation may be worth considering. I'd suggest getting in touch with the KDE Free Qt Foundation people if that's considered seriously. https://kde.org/community/whatiskde/kdefreeqtfoundation/

@josh @shauna @luis_in_brief @cwebber @root Note that this type of licensing arrangement isn't new; it's similar to the agreement between The Qt Company and KDE Free Qt Foundation.

@shauna @luis_in_brief @cwebber @root I'd encourage them to add a clause to the CLA like Signal and Slint (https://github.com/slint-ui/slint/discussions/244) that obliges them to continue publishing the software with an OSI approved license, so that they can't just decide to make it proprietary one day (which they could have before with the Apache license).

@element @shauna @luis_in_brief @cwebber @root > there is ZERO intention to switch license to non-OSI

Great! Put that in legally binding writing 😃

It's a strange feeling to be afraid to associate with others of your own ancestry for reasonable fear that they are fascists. I don't know if non-Jews can relate.

@greenpete > Do you feel that a lot of Jews/Israelis support their state in attacking Gaza the way the are?

Many do, and many do not. I think more now than ever do not support what is going on in Gaza. Recently there have been protests against it in Israel, especially from families of hostages taken on October 7.

@holyramenempire I was also pressured by my mom and a Jewish friend in high school to go on Birthright, which I never did. I've aged out of that now, so at least I don't have to deal with that anymore.

@holyramenempire The guy who first introduced me to JVP years ago told me about how his Birthright trip was what led him to question Zionism. While he was in Israel, there was fighting going on, but he felt unsettled by how safe he felt on the tour. Later he studied abroad in Jordan, staying with a Palestinian family. A Palestinian there told him that he was the first Jew they had met who wasn't holding a gun.

@zeh I'm aware that Zionism was a fascist colonial project from the start. It is a tragedy how much it has caught on, and how much damage it has done to Palestinians. If you don't see it also as one response (of many) to anti-Semitism, you're missing the wider context.

@zeh While Zionism and the colonization of Palestine started decades before the Holocaust, the influx of refugees from the Holocaust, and earlier from Nazi persecution in Germany, was critical for the Zionist colony to have enough population to establish an ethnostate by force.

@zeh I'd challenge the conception of Ashkenazim, and others who have assimilated into whiteness, as proletarian. By aligning with whiteness, they have chosen to align with the bourgeoisie against the racialized proletarians. The 1968 NYC Teachers' Strike I discussed above was an example of that. https://readsettlers.org/

@zeh I've been reading Settlers this week and I think it's shifting my perspective in good ways. It is answering a lot of lingering questions I've had about US history that I never found satisfying answers for before.

@redrozalia @zeh I'm not sure I entirely agree with the analysis presented in Settlers, but regardless, the historical evidence it uses to back up its arguments is important. I am learning a lot by reading it. It's also important that white people downplay and are often ignorant of this history.

@redrozalia @zeh The point isn't their self identification. It's the privileges they are rewarded with for actively oppressing other racialized groups and how that changes their priorities.

It is anti-Semitic to conflate all Jews with Zionism. But it is anti-Palestinian to say this without acknowledging that many, if not most, Jews do support Zionism. I say this not to invite anti-Semitic attacks on Jews, but as an invitation to stand in solidarity with Palestinians.

Many Jews support Zionism not only ideologically, but also materially. The Jewish National Fund collects money from Jews around the world, especially the USA, to colonize Palestine. I went to high school with a Jew who volunteered to fight Palestinians in the IDF, and I don't think he was an Israeli citizen who was conscripted. These must be challenged.