Notices by Matt 🔶 (LordMatt) (lordmatt@mastodon.social), page 2

@pfefferle I accidentally stumbled on the problem. I tried to ping another site I run from node.lordmatt.co.uk. That too gave the same reply.

So I took a look at the backend of node.lordmatt.co.uk. That's when I saw a notice about an expired anti-spam license. Disabled plugin. Everything works again.

I'd assumed it was WebMention as that's where the error was. Only now do I recall that 500s were recently changed to 403s. 4.5 hours spent re-learning to look at the simple stuff first.

@pfefferle I suspect the problem may be with node.lordmatt.co.uk as other implementations also reply forbidden to it.

@pfefferle OpenMentions has no blocked comment keys - the only limit is first-time commenters are held for moderation.

This might be the strangest brick wall I've run into for a while. Everything looks correct and yet...

@pfefferle It seems to be between the two. Another pinged as normal. I've tried two targets on OpenMentions with two sources from node.lordmatt.co.uk and both gave me a Forbidden which showed up in the access logs.

@pfefferle I can indeed:

Source: https://node.lordmatt.co.uk/2024/04/30/posts/replies/whats-my-take-on-writing-prompts/

Target: https://openmentions.com/news/question-of-the-week/whats-your-take-on-writing-prompts/

Hi @pfefferle - if you have a free moment I'd love to get your thoughts on an odd bug.

For one WebMention source only I'm getting a 403. I host both the bugged sender and the receiver.

I'm currently working through the issue with technical support so no worries if I caught you at a bad time. I love your plugins and want to respect your time.

@lars Actually, I won't bother @pfefferle - I think the issue is the host cache not identifying JSON requests as separate from HTML.

@lars Thanks for the heads up. That keeps happening from time to time and I'm still not sure why. I've asked my hosts to look into it again. I might see if @pfefferle has any free time to offer thoughts. I hope I figure it out eventually.

In the meantime, I've purged the cache.

@pfefferle I stumbled upon that. It showed me my JSON was not getting the author's info. That tool is a stroke of genius - it might not have gotten me to the end of the problem but it did get me in the ballpark. The getting lost part at the end was my fault from which you saved me.

@pfefferle It is so obvious now that it has been pointed out to me. Thank you for being willing to spend your free time helping me learn.

@pfefferle Just looking over my first message. God, I really failed to give any context at all. Thank you for being patient with me.

@pfefferle Sure. The page I am trying to ping is: https://openmentions.com/topics/technology/ai/ you can see on the screenshot that the first commenter is being credited.

The source page (the one I am pinging from) is:https://matrixdreams.com/blog/random/asking-chatgpt-stupid-questions/i-asked-chatgpt-to-imagine-it-ruled-the-world-i-was-not-expecting-its-answer/

An example post without any comments: https://matrixdreams.com/blog/random/asking-chatgpt-stupid-questions/i-asked-chatgpt-if-socks-are-like-apples/

I'm happy to get down and dirty with some coding but I do not yet understand where the data is coming from and (thus) how to hook in and fix things.

@pfefferle I'm trying to get one of my sites to take a ping from another. It returns "not enough information" and using the tool, I can see that it gives this: "author":{"type":"card"} (unless there is a comment and then it finds the first comment as the author). I'm trying to work out where the JSON response is getting its info so I can supply a proper author card.

@pfefferle can you point me at some resources that will let me work out why the first comment is given as the author in the JSON when I ping another site?

@pfefferle I shall have a think. If any worthy thoughts emerge I shall pass them your way.

A quick question for @pfefferle when they have time.

I'm seeing "Not enough data available" when pinging a link quite a bit (including from Mastodon). What information should I add to my own sites to ensure a good ping?

@pfefferle I should add that I filippin' love the WordPress WebMention plugin.

@pfefferle I can turn them back on. And... now they work fine. I'll call that a win.

Here's the site if you are feeling nosey: https://openmentions.com

@pfefferle That would explain why the face piles on openmentions.com looked odd today.