Notices by Leah Rowe is not a Rowebot (libreleah@mas.to), page 2

Very soon.

@janethemotherfucker @littlemisssynth yeah, like i said, i do use arch too. i don't really care what's on my main machine, since i can just run whatever i want on other machines. or run virtual macchines on my main machine

debian does the job. i don't really give a shit what's in debian packages. like i said, i'm using my own lxde compiled from source!

like

if i want to make my lxde sing the lolly pop song, i can. debian package repos are irrelevant to me.

There's one thing I don't get, about the recent episode of handmaid's tale. How do the Americans invade Boston without being shot down by like, a million missiles? They're flanked on both sides by New York and Maine, they'd have to pass through one of those - or Vermont.

Unless maybe they fly in from Nova Scotia or something, and over the sea.

They don't explain the geography at all.

Looking forward to next week's finale!

i have purchased the domain name, lwde.org

I was introduced to https://github.com/labwc/labwc recently. It's essentially OpenBox's counterpart on Wayland. Spiritial successor. It re-uses the same specification from OpenBox.

I'm planning to use this. Most of LXDE already has Gtk3 support, so it shouldn't be difficult to port a bunch of it over to Wayland.

I really hate all desktop environments with a passion. Openbox with LXDE is all I can tolerate on Xorg. Nothing as superior as LXDE exists yet on Wayland but it will. I've made it my mission.

@janethemotherfucker @littlemisssynth but then i'd have to tolerate fedora bullshit

you realise i built it all from source yes?

whatever patches they did, if any of them are useful, i can just cherry-pick them into my own branch and re-compile easily.

find their repo and show me if they did any interesting lxde patches. i bet it's probably just vanilla like the debian packaging

@rl_dane of course

i use arch linux btw

no really, it's true. i kept banging on about debian earlier but i also use arch on a bunch of test machines. i need to test lbmk and cbmk all the time on the most bleeding edge linux.

i also have a parabola machine, for shits and giggles

@janethemotherfucker @littlemisssynth btw libreboot also compiles on alpine. i patched up some stuff for it ages ago. probably still works. still need to merge a partial patch someone send adding dependency setup, and then tweak that, but yeah

probably some weird bugs caused by musl libc and the various upstream sources assuming glibc but the user i had test it for me built it and flashed it entirely from alpine and it booted just fine

@janethemotherfucker @littlemisssynth Give me pretty much any reasonable Linux distro and I'll make it do what I want.

@janethemotherfucker @littlemisssynth I'm just going to figuratively run this car (Debian) into the ground until it falls apart. Which should be ETA Summer time when Debian 13 comes out.

Then I can either dist-upgrade or... I could install Arch Linux. I run mostly Arch based distros on all my test machines, and I use it heavily for different things. But using Debian on my primacy computer has just been a bad habit, really.

I don't really care anyway. All the Linuxes except Alpine are the same.

@janethemotherfucker @libreleah yeah, but that's a hassle, and i'm a lazy catgirl who has a whole pile of old computers to go hiss at

@littlemisssynth @janethemotherfucker i hacked a configure file so that i can build a 20 year old DE design on a modern computer. because i have it just how i like it.

As I write this, I've committed 219 patches to lbmk's master branch since Libreboot 25.04rev1 which came out on May 1st; today is May 18th.

That's ~13 patches daily. I'm on a massive audit spree, and there are a few additional features that I've implemented - and more along the way.

And that very special Canoeboot release deserves to be done well, so I'm taking my time. I'll have everything ready for an RC, next weekend.

Basically making up for lost time, because I was awol in February/March.

I'm postponing Libreboot 25.06rc1 and Canoeboot 25.06rc1 to next weekend instead. The weekend of 24 May 2025, and 25 May 2025.

I'm ready *now*, but there are a number of fixes and new features that I wish to make.

"RC" means release candidate, not nightly. It means that I consider it to be *stable*, prior to testing.

My current lbmk and cbmk master branches meet this criteria, but they'll meet it even more, next weekend!

For instance look at the init.sh improvements I made in lbmk.git today!

@athousandcateaus you've made my day. thank you.

and i did this last night instead of getting canoeboot 25.06rc1 out

which might now come out next weekend. unless i pull another rabbit out of a hat in the next 6 hours

because i'm out and about doing a favour for some friends this afternoon. and this evening i'm catching up on lab work

i wasn't going to tolerate anything that isn't LXDE. my old LXDE kept crashing, probably just because debian has buggy old LXDE. now i have my git build and will just investigate and fix it if it happens again

@lukeshu someone else also got confused by this. i didn't mean gtk2. i said gtk2-style

it can be gtk-whatever, or even qt. but i want it to look and feel the same. no nonsense.

i can spend a week on another desktop and start to tolerate it, but lxde is the only desktop that i actually like.

that, and the haikuos desktop. but i'm running linux, not haikuos, so i want lxde.

you can scale fonts in gtk2 though quite nicely. i used lxde on a 2880x1620 screen a while back, on a thinkpad w541

My new LXDE desktop. On Debian 12.10.

But I *compiled it myself*, from upstream Git repositories of the LXDE project.

Debian's LXDE packages are buggy and old as hell. I decided to YOLO and just *purge* it. I also purged MATE, KDE, GNOME and a bunch of other bullshit that was installed on my machine. No more bullshit packages.

I have a dev environment now, so I can easily patch up whatever I want.

LXDE ftw. Also building new Libreboot to update this installation which is my personal machine.

that is not to say that all change is bad. wayland for example is superior to Xorg. i like LXDE not because i have an affinity for Xorg. Xorg sucks. but I want something that looks feels and functions exactly like LXDE does. i don't want any change.

LXQt is the nearest thing to LXDE, but in my opinion much more bloated and it's always buggy when I use it.

I want LXDE. good old fashioned Gtk2-style LXDE. and i want that ported to wayland. so that i can still use it in the year 2050. and i will.