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Shalltear?Stan? (sharutiaburaddofouren@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 13:15:59 JST Shalltear?Stan? @BowsacNoodle it is not because I disagree with them, I am irrelevant in the picture, it is because these churches are exactly what is described. In the woes to the pharisees for being hypocrites for instance when Christ says they slam the door of the Kingdom of Heaven in people's faces yet cannot enter themselves and try to stop anyone else from trying that seems strangely comparable to rome claiming that salvation is only found through their church and their belief system. They call the early theologians 'father' specifically to set them apart when we know God shows no favoritism and there are none righteous on the earth, all have turned away, there are none who understand
Faith is the belief, from the heart, that Christ Jesus both true man and true God, sent from the Father to save mankind from our sins by dying in our place on the cross, His once for all sacrifice. That it is by grace of the Father that we have this faith, it is not of ourselves, that Jesus counts us righteous by the shedding of His blood, by the witness of the Holy Spirit we are justified before the Father and our sins remembered no more
"Practice" I would state has nothing to do with it for the fruit of our salvation is shown much as the fruit of unbelief in shown in those who pay lip service but whose hearts are far from the Lord. My issue is with these churches and false teachings for doubtless there are Christians who sit in the pews who put their faith and trust only in the Lord Jesus Christ, but there are many who do not and trust in merited salvation in the confessional with "degrees of sin" or that Mary is inherent to your salvation or you must pray to the saints or purgatory and all the extrabiblical nonsense. If I have love for humanity then I want them to be united with Christ, and not believing in a false gospel. The judaizers who likely followed Paul's footsteps to the church of galatia preached to them all the same but also that they must do works and that Paul's apostolic authority was less than the others as he was a latecomer. That's where the danger lies, in those who present a new gospel, pretending to speak for God as though His crosswork was incomplete, the Holy Spirit is not strong enough to transform the hearts of believers, and the Father's love based on condition
Whether or not I can communicate well, that's on me, but my mission is to let God speak through me of His Word. That's always the issue, everything is to God's glory for it's His work and righteousness as we have none of our own. We are the Body and all works God prepared beforehand for us to walk in, nothing is from us, we can't even reason our salvation, it is only by His grace that we know Him to be the Son of God and our Savior
I don't mean to misrepresent what you say but it sounds a bit to me like a 'fundamentals of faith' argument which the big problem is satan also believes that "Jesus Christ, the Son of God, died on the cross for the salvation of mankind. He rose again and conquered death.", but what he wants it to mean is Christ died not in place of mankind but so that we foolishly try to make up for sin as atonement, which we never can, and that Jesus only conquered death in personal terms than for all of us who have eternal life in Him -
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Shalltear?Stan? (sharutiaburaddofouren@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 10:50:15 JST Shalltear?Stan? @BowsacNoodle @branman65 btw Noodle I have to say thank you, I have a feeling you saw that I said I usually don't get much of a response so you were willing to discuss. We do all get into banter but what I believe touches people is the one on one discussion when preaching the gospel -
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Shalltear?Stan? (sharutiaburaddofouren@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 01:19:51 JST Shalltear?Stan? @BowsacNoodle that is quite literally the point that I made. That is exactly why these church theologians are called 'father' by the false churches. It is pharisee behavior to forsake the Word of God for tradition. Christ says, "Isaiah was right when he spoke about you, saying 'Their worship is mere lip service and their hearts are far from the Lord. Their teachings are the teachings of men'"
The last verse you posted also demonstrates this, as some like augustine stated he'd rather have someone fervently disagree with him than take his word as truth when scripture is truth. These churches exalt these men to a greater status and hierarchy, by definition making their writings lord over scripture when it is the opposite that is true -
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Shalltear?Stan? (sharutiaburaddofouren@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 00:58:17 JST Shalltear?Stan? @BowsacNoodle I agree that it shouldn't matter. I didn't care even if she were a perpetual virgin. The problem is because of late heretical doctrines like asceticism it became a "holier state" to be a virgin so because Mary became through extrabiblical late apocryphal tales the "queen of Heaven" she had to become sinless and immaculately conceived and worshipped and praised. It's actually funny to claim that Mary did not fulfill her marital duties because refusing each other is a sin, therefore that means if she were a perpetual virgin not only would it not have been necessary for Joseph to marry her, but it means she is not 'full of grace'
So the issue then become important because rome and the east both claim you MUST believe in the sinless perpetual virgin who hears your prayers and all that idolatry. But in the bible it clearly says that Joseph "knew her not until she bore a Son" and literally every single other time in the bible knowing in a marital context means intercourse. Some people try to argue that Jesus' brothers are either His cousins or Joseph's children but it's funny we have to throw Joseph under the bus and ignore his role in the Lord's upbringing
I personally wouldn't mind if somebody believed Mary was perpetually virgin and it was Jesus' cousins, although I'd argue James using his title as "The Lord's brother" is tarnished by the thought that Mary wasn't his biological mother. I also think it besmirches Mary's character to state she never wanted to have other children and be a loving mother and dutiful wife. She has no real teaching or speaking role at all, and monasticism didn't happen until a few centuries later
I once saw somebody say, "I find it disgusting that we have to talk about Mary having sex and get into the gross details of her having a natural birth because these these churches make these false arguments" and yeah, it's an unpleasant but necessary point to knock down -
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Shalltear?Stan? (sharutiaburaddofouren@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 00:25:00 JST Shalltear?Stan? It's hard not to make reference to the church theologians without calling them the colloquial term of 'father' but do you know why I don't want to call them that? Because in Matthew 23:9 it literally says, "Do not call anyone on earth 'father' for you have one Father who is in Heaven -
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Shalltear?Stan? (sharutiaburaddofouren@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 00:18:49 JST Shalltear?Stan? My experience has been just being ignored whenever I demonstrate verses that outright contradict false churches of merit claims and even when I break down arguments where it is irrefutable what I've said follows through whereas what the churches say is incoherent I don't get a response
Sometimes people appeal to patristics but that's laughable but only to anybody who has spent even a small amount of time studying early church theologians, because they got into debates over theology and did not agree on anything, including between themselves such as in the case of augustine famously writing a series of RETRACTIONS for when he got things WRONG, and worst of all for the roman church the MAJORITY of the early church theologians had the correct view of Matthew 16 and said 'the rock' was the professing faith of Peter. Some of them viewed it as meaning all Christians, with origen saying incredulously, "Does Peter hold the keys to the Kingdom alone?!"
Besides on it's face being an idiotic causality loop argument where scripture cannot be interpreted by men so we must turn to men to interpret scripture, which is also present in the "we created the canon of scripture therefore we own it but it also informs our doctrines" chicken and egg hypocrisy. Both east and west churches claim the early church theologians were unanimous in consensus. Rome hilariously makes this claim while at the same time labeling some as heretics(but only later of course). Similar in concept to them claiming the church has been unchanged but also that vatican I and II were these landmarks where the church redefined itself by going back to its traditions which how can you go back to tradition unless you strayed from it in the first place? -
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Shalltear?Stan? (sharutiaburaddofouren@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 00:16:37 JST Shalltear?Stan? When it comes to salvation people are sadly lazy and stubborn. They won't go through the effort to see if what you claim about their religion is true or not
This isn't unique to low IQ religions like islam, the roman church and eastern church are just as false and make claims that can be easily refuted and/or are not apparent in the history they claim. The natural fallen man hates God's Word so whenever he is exposed to it, even when he thinks he's following Christianity he shrinks back or ignores it
It's plain and simple all you'd need is Romans 3:28 or Ephesians 2:8-10 and the roman church is defeated. Bible says faith without works, they practice this bizarre concept of faith 'cooperating with grace'. even though Ephesians literally says that you have faith by grace, and THIS IS NOT OF YOURSELVES--NOR WORKS LEST ANY MAN SHOULD BOAST. It's why they can read(or likely haven't read because that is common to find them who've never read the bible, just a handful of approved passages by the church) Matthew 16 and somehow, the part where it says NOT THROUGH FLESH AND BLOOD and the grammar making obvious reference that 'the rock' is Peter's confession, it somehow means Peter is the head of the church(no, that is Christ Himself) and holds an office called pope(literally did not exist until much much later) where he presides over other church offices(Peter didn't even lead the church in the first century, John, James, and Simeon did) where he has a magic chair that makes any other pope not make mistakes(I am not kidding. It is just as ridiculous as mormon magic underwear or scientology)
I have seen easterners claim things like Mary's perpetual virginity(late fabricated concept, scripture uses the euphemism for Joseph having sex with her, and talks about Jesus' siblings trying to prevent His ministry including His mother meaning of course she sinned) and that she is owed praises and tidings and that there is biblical citation for this when there isn't. The bible has very little to tell of Mary and that's not because she isn't important, but she was a virgin who gave birth to our Lord, raised Him with her husband Joseph, she was a witness to the resurrection, and had a couple small parts to play in His earthly ministry that being her requesting the water to wine(which was her pride) and trying to stop Him from fulfilling His mission by claiming He was insane or mentally ill and bringing Him back home with them(need I remind you that Christ called Peter "satan" for doing the same thing but slightly better because at least Peter believed Jesus' message but just didn't want to see Him arrested, tried, and executed) -
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Shalltear?Stan? (sharutiaburaddofouren@cawfee.club)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 13:40:47 JST Shalltear?Stan? This has been on my mind for a bit it's just a stupid self defeating non argument because I just have to find a gay church of any kind and suddenly it's not indicative of a greater problem or that church is excommunicated even though the same is true for others so you still lose by your own logic
False churches do this to people but Christians need to not fall into the trap of pride as it blinds you and you start making the same mistakes. They are at such a disadvantage of propping up false teachings and idolatry that it makes sense they have to turn to logical fallacies and patristics, we need to preach the Word and honestly avoid the idiocy of appealing to authority of men or popularity because it's God arguing His Word through us and His Word is perfect and irrefutable and we take on pride in presenting His argument to hopefully lead the lost sheep into His flock -
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Shalltear?Stan? (sharutiaburaddofouren@cawfee.club)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 13:40:04 JST Shalltear?Stan? I always forget about this -
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Shalltear?Stan? (sharutiaburaddofouren@cawfee.club)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 13:40:03 JST Shalltear?Stan? I am reliably told that protestants and Christians in general are jew lovers and support israel unwaveringly. I think maybe you shouldn't base your entire argument off single examples because that's the faulty logic liberals use to say the roman church is the center of pedophilia. You can find for any denomination a group or church that outwardly supports homosexuality. Many synods were created and schisms occurred because liberalism crept into larger church organizations and this splintering continues. I believe for instance the Presbyterian Church of America split off or divorced from liberal churches who then formed the Presbyterian Churches of the USA, so it's PCA vs PCUSA iirc
Bottom line is to put your faith in Christ alone and base all your doctrines on God's Word alone, and you will be able to clean house or leave any church that does not affirm Christ as Lord and Savior. And affirming Christ as Lord and Savior means that He died on the cross in your place for the penalty of your sins once for all, that it is Him alone who deserves the honor worship and praise and who is your only way to Heaven and your only wisdom as the Word made flesh. For Christ shed His blood to count you righteous before the Father by paying your debt for sin which is death, and this is attested by the perfect witness of the Holy Spirit, who testifies on your behalf before the Father and the Son who judge you as innocent by His Word. For you cannot take the stand and claim your innocence, only the Holy Spirit can do so and He testifies that Christ died in your place so you do not owe for sins as He remembers them no longer
Yes this explanation is needed for legion and the devil affirm that Jesus is the Lord and that He died and rose again, but they are not saved for they do not believe that Christ redeems humanity and that we must merit salvation and be accused of our sin for we can never repay the debt we have incurred and the wage of it is death -
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