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@q3k a kitten dies everytime I see a gha yaml file with inline bash scripts to parse json via jq

@luebbermann er ist informatiker aber er arbeitet bei SAP

@jwildeboer @kdedude @schlauch

might be relevant, too?

http://hintjens.com/blog:93 (C4.1 - an Exothermic Process)

http://hintjens.com/blog:26 (The End of Stable Releases?)

http://hintjens.com/blog:85 (The End of Software Versions)

C4 doesnt contain much details wrt releases/versions. I remember that e.g. zeromq tried to avoid the producer/consumer relationship that often emerges with software projects, and thus didnt put too much weight into versioned releases. It was expected to work on latest main.

@jwildeboer @kdedude @schlauch Ive been re-reading chapter 4 of the book and I feel it would make sense to eventually merge this into the C4 website / repo.

The chapter is the design doc explaining the what and why, while the protocol defined in the RFC is the condensed implementation that explains the how.

@jwildeboer @kdedude @schlauch

IMHO this is not gatekeeping per-se but more like "just enough process", in the same way that you would expect contributors to open github issues and fill out an issue template over sending a free-form email to the maintainers personal mail address.

Sticking to problem/solution statements is as simple as it can get and helps to avoid the XY-Problem. I'm using this model successfully for many years now (adapted to a corporate setting) and it just works.

@jwildeboer +1 for all suggestions.

But what about the document status?

AFAIR C4 itself is governed by COSS (https://rfc.unprotocols.org/), and if you change C4, technically it will would become deprecated and eventually retired.

But COSS has never left the draft state :D Do you remember what the ideas behind unprotocols were and why there is a split between unprotocols and ZMQ RFCs?

@jwildeboer

IMHO we never had to rely on GitHub:

> The project SHALL be hosted on github.com or equivalent, herein called the “Platform”.

it was just practical to do so. what else do you think should be changed?

@jwildeboer aber da ist keine leiche drin oder?

@jwildeboer where can I buy one? :O